Asian girls love to date out
What do you think of Asian girls who date “out” – meaning Asian girls who date outside of their race? Do you care? Does it bother you? Is she a “sell-out”? Do you get angry? Isn’t it even a big deal? I’ll give you an example: This one Asian girl told me that when she was dating white and black guys, wherever she went, other Asian guys would give her looks and stare and consequently, make her feel very self-conscious. Is this right? Should she expect this? I feel some Asian guys do have a problem with Asian girls who date white or black guys. Some do make judgement calls and even label her as something not too favorable. I know that if a Korean girl was dating or married to a black guy in Seoul, she’d get shunned from society to a certain degree and she’d get scrutinized. Do some Asian guys feel they’re being betrayed by her because she’s now with “them” – the dominant white society? Do you feel she may be ashamed to be Asian and wants to be accepted by the white society? Do you judge her? Tell me if you care and why…
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That’s pretty interesting, Ed. Being West Coast, the Asians here are fairly new immigrants, and I think because of that, there aren’t many of them in those high level positions: bankers, lawyers, and doctors. Plus, the banking industry isn’t as big over here. I’m also thinking that a lot of West Coast Asians will go to Ivy League Schools and remain over there to play the money/power game.
On the East Coast, the Asian communities seem very well-established, no? Maybe lots of 3rd or 4th generation Asians? I would think more Americanized Asian women will go for the non-Asian guys, especially if they have bank. Plus, I think Asian women tend to be cuter than the Jewish women IMO.
I don’t see an issue here, I’m white and dating a vietnamese girl and no I’m not 50 bald and fat, I’m 21 and she’s 20 and whenever we go out to a vietnamese section it’s alwyas the same as a matter of fact if we doon’t get stares from the guys then it would be weird, I don’t understand why though. I mean before I met here I only dated w/girls and when we first met I didn’t even think about the fact that she is asian. it just doesn’t matter I had no sinister motive other then the fact that we got along there is no other reason, so who cares who an a/g dates?
sanjose,
I’m sure you’re very genuine in what you say, and I wish the answer to your last question was “no one”. That is to say, I wish no one cared about who dated who regardless of race, ethnicity, or socioeconomic status. BUT IT’S JUST NOT THE CASE.
The truth to the matter is that the rapid increase in asian women dating outside of their own is a huge blow to Asian American men’s confidence. When Asian men see so many AW/WM couples, it’s an internal struggle that they face where we (I’m asian) unconsciously ask ourselves, “am I not good enough? Is that why so many asian women are dating white guys?” etc. If that wasn’t bad enough, we’re constantly reminded that when asian women date outside, the guys they date are almost always… yeah, you guessed it… White! And this brings on an even larger issue in my opinion. I’ll preface it by asking this question: When asian women aren’t dating black men or latino men, but exclusively white men, what does that imply? When you ask that question, you begin to see that there are deeper issues here. I’m referring to internal racism.
Asian women, as well as Asian men, experience a shit load of internal racism, whether they want to admit it or not. You know where this comes from? The fucking media that’s where. Thick hair, facial hair, tall height, wide “colorful” eyes, long slender looking faces, pointy noses, unblemished skin, white skin, full lips, “meat” that goes to all the right areas and is “reasonably” proportioned (i.e. body fat that goes to the chest and/or but, and not the thighs, calves, and/or arms, which is usually the case for asian women)? Any of those features ring a bell? Those exact features are portrayed constantly throughout media as being… desirable. And a lot of the men who have those features and are shown on t.v. are… white men (and women)? A lot of asian people don’t have those features.
What you have now is a group of people who gravitate towards another group of people who have these white, euro-centric features.
It’s very disappointing when the only white guy at my high school is dating an asian girl… who is a year older. It’s also very disappointing when my college friend is dating a white guy, too, with whom I later find out is 3 years younger than her (they met when they were in high school). What the fuck does that imply when asian girls are dating white guys who are younger, and probably less developed on an intellectual level? What that tells you is that it started off physical. That is to say, these two asian girls were attracted to whiteness, and anyone asian-looking was not appealing to them. Internal Racism, man. I’ll say it over and over again. When I go to pacific east mall, an asian mall out here in richmond, and I see approximately 10 AF/WM couples to 0 AM/WF couples within a span of 10 minutes, do you honestly think that as an Asian man, I’m NOT going to think that this is fucked up? The exact opposite, dude. When I see 3 asian girls, each holding on to a white guys arm, walking together on a 3-way date, do you think I’m going to say in my head, “oh lovely, those three couples look so happy.”? Hell no, man! What goes through my head is, “what the fuck is this all about? Why are there so many fucking AW/WM couples?”
Are all asian women like this? Absolutely not, but a great number of them are, and that’s what sucks. In a community such as richmond where there is no shortage of asian men relative to asian women, you still see a shitload of these AW/WM couples. And again, that’s what’s bothersome. I know quite a few asian men in my immediate family who have gone overseas to thailand, laos, and china to find themselves a wife. You know why? Because they can’t find any other asian women who are willing to give them a chance.
Internal racism.
Just for your interest, try googling something like “hot asian guys” and see what you get. Also, go to craigslist personal ads section and browse around a little. If you look carefully, you’ll find some posts that will literally say, “Asian women looking for white european man”. Whether you come across 1 or 100 of these posts, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is the fact that there’s even one post like that.
Again, what do you think about when you see all these things. For a non white male such as yourself, you probably don’t think much of it. But for asian men like myself, a world of questions come to mind, and that usually leads to a world of hurt. Our confidence is shaken, and… well… I’m sure you get it by now. Hopefully you do…. and hopefully all you asian women get it as well. Instead of bashing asian men, you should make a stand for them and represent for your community. At the very least, acknowledge and accept that what the media does to us is fucked up.
Nothing against you, san jose, and all those white men and asian women who don’t think there’s a damn thing wrong with AW/WM couples, but there clearly is an issue going on there.
Internal racism.
I can’t wait when a major news program comes up with a documentary talking about this exact same issue. It’s going to be amazing. This will undoubtedly come up soon as this AW/WM thing is not going away.
i went to uc berkeley from 2005 to 2010 where i graduated this past may, and i can’t begin to tell you how frustrated i was everytime i saw the aw/wm thing. everytime i saw the opposite, i couldn’t help but smile and say to myself, “you go, boiii!!!” i’m approximating here, but it sure seemed like in my 5 years there, the ratio was somewhere close to 20:1. That is, 20 aw/wm couples to every am/wf couple.
all you have to do is pay attention, and you’ll see what so many asian men have been seeing. it’s so ironic, though. i remember reading in my asian american studies class about that whole crap about the asian peril thing. That concept went very deep, but a part of it was the fact that white men claimed asian men were polluting their communities and taking all their wives. This, of course, was based on absolute crap. Today, it can be argued that what we’re seeing is the opposite: the white peril. That is, white men taking away all the asian women from asian men. At least this time, there seems to be a shit load of evidence for it.
I’d have no problem with the af/wm couples thing, if I knew for a fact that there wasn’t any kind of internal racism going on, and if the ratio was much different. But things as they are, is very bothersome, and white men and asian women who don’t see that this is an issue seriously need to wake up.
another post from yet another “angry asian”.
i was watching that movie, “the forbidden kingdom” starring Jet Li and jackie chan the other day on tnt. it was pretty good, up until the point where i found out the white guy gets the asian girl (and not to mention, he’s the fuckin’ hero.)
that description i just gave has been so common throughout hollywood movies that it sickens me when i see it even in this day and age. the sad thing is it’s so based on reality (the wm getting the af thing).
but do you (Asian Women and White Men) honestly know how that makes us single asian men feel? when the media portrays that same image over and over where the white guy gets the asian girl? i’ll tell you how that makes us feel… like shit, that’s how. not all asian men feel this way because… well… they just don’t care or are tired of caring anymore… but a great number still do. it’s fucking debilitating, man.
a lot of people might be saying that asian men, in the process of talking about this whole af/wm thing, are objectifying asian women, but really we’re not. we’re merely standing up for ourselves in the face of both white men and asian women. please understand that.
All the best to them. Just don’t cry to me when the white man dumps you for another Asian girl because he was “just in it for the fun.” In fact, we need to make it a part of the “Asian Bro Code” that none of us must take back white people’s sloppy seconds. You have made your bed, now sleep in it. I find it extremely insulting when I hear about how these Asian women would bed white guys but settle down with Asian chumps because the white man would not marry her. All of a sudden the Asian chump is marriageable. Disgusting.
DDuana, that’s interesting point. It seems most of the Asian women around me ended up marrying the white guys – the whities were more than willing to settle down with the asian women. So the ASian men are still left high and drya..and alone.
Now, the subject of asian women who bed white guys almost immediately is another topic to explore!
@richmond,
Excellent post bro. I feel your pain as I have experienced it all.
For this same reason I (an Asian Male, good looking too I might add) am hesitant to ask out an Asian girl for fear that deep down inside she likes to suck on a white man’s cock. Hey sorry if I was too direct for all you AF out there but it is the harsh truth. I lived it. Not only that, I shun myself from Asian women because I strongly believe they hate Asian men so why should I bother. Why should I risk being rejected and getting my pride shattered when I already know they like white men or any non-Asian men to begin with. I have given up. Asian women will not be in my future that’s for sure. If I have to get a mail-order bride or go to Europe to find a bride or whatever it takes, I will. I’m done putting up with Asian women’s shit. They can do whatever the fuck they want, likewise I’ll do whatever the fuck I want.
The reason why I’m so bitter and angry is because I am hurt by this. It makes me feel inferior that I am not wanted. Am I not good enough for them? Good riddance actually and I feel that I can speak for all Asian men out there that we don’t need their types anyway. We need someone who will truly love us for who we are, and that is we are Asian.
It must be bad out in California. The Asian females in Texas aren’t that way.
I’m an Asian female and I found white guys sooo unattractive for some reason. I mean, they are pretty to look at, but that’s as deep as it’s going to get. 25% white trash, 25% weird, 35% only cares about themselves and have no cultural richness ( other than depending on their religions, gag!), and the rest of them just so-so, boring, or overly “I LOVE ASIANS”. only 5% are good to date/marry, but then again you have to get through that whole self-centerness first.
I’m dating an hispanic who’s not that attractive on the eyes but that’s just what happened. I purely date people base on how much i get along with them…etc. I kinna regret not ever dating an asian guy, I really really really want to., and now i don’t have a chance since this hispanic guy treats me so well. I never reject an asian guy tho, it’s just that no asian guy ever ask me out or show any interest
. The ones that are out going and slightly more out spoken always already have a flock of females following them around.
o well.~
@VersionBest – you make some good points and I do agree with some of them. Hey man, I feel your pain! I really do. but you have to rise above it all and just remain positive. Cuz it takes only 1 Asian woman to love you. I know that sounds cheesy but it’s true and when you find that, that’ll be your salvation. But I do agree with you. Do you think it’s that these Asian women hate Asian men because they hate themselves?
@S, so you’ve never dated Asian men? that’s interesting. and I often hear that from some Asian women and they always say “cuz they never asked me out”. If this is 100% true, then the Asian men are to blame! Asian men should have asked you out! so lame. such passive asian men. I guarantee you, if I had met you, I would’ve asked you out.
@S, let me ask you – have you ever liked or crushed on Asian men? Do you hang out with Asians at all? It may also be that you are purely surrounded by non-Asians. If you’re not around Asians or friends with them, then it’s hard for Asian men to ever come into contact with you.
@S, are you Asian American? or recently came from Asia?
@Joe, are you saying the Asian women tend to stick with Asian men in TX?
@S, I feel the same way sometimes. I’ve dated white or non-asian and it just doesn’t feel right or complete. I don’t know what it is, cultural? but it doesn’t feel normal. and I’ve grown up in the U.S. most of my life. so I always wondered how other Asian women do it – how they get along with their white or non-Asian husbands/BF’s.
Ok so I was reading this article and googled “hot asian guys” and my jaw dropped!! I found http://www.ratethisasian.com but I cannot access because the server was overloaded. However I also found http://www.aznlover.com/community/archive/index.php/t-63015.html and got more pissed. WTF!!! How dare anyone rate any person or race. This is so demeaning and racist. This should be something that should never be allowed in my opinion.
This is how bullying starts. When we allow websites that “rate a race” or rate a size then we dehumanize each other and that should not be allowed. ALL PEOPLE deserve respect, and do not deserve the butt of a joke.
To all the A-boys out there: Reading this website makes me kind of really sad. You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot when you gripe and groan like this.
From the perspective of a WF, you guys seem like walking enigmas. Here you are griping about not getting dates, and yet you only want to marry Asian. WTF? Seriously, if a WF who look likes Giselle Bundchen or a black girl who looks like Naomi Campbell’s twin saunters up to you and flirts, what is the concensus on your behavior? You’re so cold that we assume that you’re not interested. So MANY girls have said that they assume that Asian guys only want to date other Asians or that they’re already taken. Seriously, you kind of are to blame for your own dating inadequacies, what with pigeon-holing yourself with a girl who is Asian. You can bitch all you want about some distant relative going back to the motherland or another Asian country for a woman because of Asian women rejecting them here, and marrying Asian because of cultural similarities and learning the native language. If you were Chinese marrying a Vietnamese girl, how would that be any different from you, let’s say you’re an ABC, marrying a XF from your area and country? You’d still have to teach the kids another language. Your wife might still need to pick up yours if you want bi-lingual/tri-lingual children. Hell, if you’re American, like it or not, that’s a different culture from your Vietnamese or Chinese wife! What I’m trying to say is, like it or not, you’re not in an Asian country. The chances of you finding a wife/girlfriend who is your exact culture and whatnot is a lot slimmer than you dating and possibly marrying that hot Latina girl you occasionally find staring at you in your Organic Chemistry class.
Your fellow A-girls are getting the long end of the stick and they’re finding Mr. Right in other races because they’ve decided on expanding their horizons. Well, why not do the same? What makes you think that a potential girlfriend/wife wouldn’t bother to try to learn your culture of language even if she’s not Asian? It would be something for you to do together and it might even bring yourselves closer together. Hell, my old Chinese teacher is still able to preserve her culture and language and pass it on to her kids and she’s married to an all-American white guy who happens to be learning her language and culture and picking it up pretty damn well. So what makes you think that you can’t do the same? Seriously, put yourself out there. Re-invent yourself a little if you have to. Ask out the next attractive girl you see and fuck the whole racial quotient. So what if you get rejected? Tons of dudes do regardless of race! You just need to try to bounce back and stop blaming your Asianness on everything. Like it or not, girls are starting to find Asian guys sexy. And the fact that so many Asian guys are successful in life will add to your appeal.
And in terms of your position in the media, it’s just one thing that responds to the demands of the consumer. If all you A-boys start putting yourselves out there more, word will fly and I guarantee that you’ll be sexy to girls and maybe become the new Italians or Greeks or whatever. Plus, so many of you rise into prestigious places in society, so why not enact your own social change? If every Asian male does what he can to be assertive and make himself into his own image, some douche cracking penis-size jokes will think twice and shut up.
At the end of the day, you guys need to do something about it. Either you give out or give in. The choice is yours.
@gisette
Amen sister.. Preach it!
@G
I agree! I support this!
This is coming from Asian girl!
Damn Gisette, as a self proclaimed assertive SAM who primarily dates WF’s and generally doesn’t take shit from anyone, I am glad I managed to slide out from under your Hammer of God bitchslap you laid down about 3 comments back. In addition after spending a bit more time reading the posts on here I have to say I’m in agreement with you as well.
“Do some Asian guys feel they’re being betrayed by her because she’s now with “them” – the dominant white society? Do you feel she may be ashamed to be Asian and wants to be accepted by the white society? Do you judge her?”
Interesting topic. One thing, I think that needs to stop in ‘all races’ is this feeling of personal assalt when someone from their own race dates outside thier race. How does it hurt your pride if someone who is outside of ‘you’ dates someone else? Why should you allow what someone else is doing, something you cannot control, to move you so much? Is your life seriouusly effected by Asian women dating white males or non-Asian men?
If your life if being effected by this phenomenon, you need to take some time and seriously ask why it is effecting you so much. You can scream to the roof tops, at the self hatred, the inferiority complexes, the humiliation, etc… but at the end of the day the world keeps turning. Your whole world can come down and life still goes on, with or without you. The choice is yours.
This happening with Asian women in America, does not seem like it will stop. It is just going to increase. I live in Seattle, Washington and my close friend is Korean American (We will call her Tina). Asian women with white men and most cases I have seen is older wm. But it maybe due to where I am located.
I remember we had this conversation about guys, I told her I am attracted to mostly black, white, and Asian men, but I am open to other races, as long as I am physically attracted. Tina said she is just not into Asian guys at all. Either white or black guys, she said. I told her I think some Asian guys are really attractive, she was surprised I said that. But I am like, ‘I have met quite a few attractive ones I have worked with.’ But she was surprised and I kinda think she did not believe me, lol.
My point being, Tina is an awesome person, born and raised in USA, in the burbs. I think her issue with a lot fo Asian American males is that a lot of them don’t seem to be socially intergrated, even if they are born in the states. It seems that many of them seem like they were born in an Asian country, rather than being All American boys. Where they descended from leads their life, espeically family ties. I have heard many Asian women don’t want to continue to be in an asian family where she will have to deal with crazy controlling in laws as well as her own. Marrying out is the one way to get out of it all. This is not to say, that Asian American males are less American than others but in my expeeriences in Seattle, Asian men and women seem to be in their own world. But their are an increasing number of Asian females who are just American (not Asian American)and have friends all round, I have seen some Asian men like this but not a lot. I have many Asian female friends (foreign and American) and they have little trouble integrating with Americans.
All American girls (white, black, asian) for the most part want American guys. If you are not giving that vibe, the girls may shy away. Especially Asian women who just want an American life and family style. And it would not matter if her were Asian or white.
If you were born and raised in America, you need to be socially integrated. Have a mix of friends who are not only from your decent/race but have American friends. At home you can do whatever you want, but when you go outside and interact with the rest of the population being Asian is not going to get you anywhere, in fact it is a social hinderance. Be American. When in Rome do as the Romans do.
Get buff, join the fun clubs, party, dance drink. American women like the very masculine-nest guys. All American boys. If you emit ‘I am not one of you’ that will get you in trouble, ot matter where you are. My foreign male friends gets dates and tail all the time when I was in college, because they did what we did. Hung out and had a good time and confidence.
Hope this helps. I did not mean to generalize but this is from my exoeriences living in Seattle. Where the Asian population has grown tremendously since I was a kid.
I say this because in Washington it is quite noticed how the Asian population here is isolated and keeps to themselves, so whites and blacks tend to stay away. Being isolated cuts off your balls, not only to whites and blacks but saddly to Asian American women, we have seemingly opted for social integration.
They stare not because you’re cool looking, but because you’re an idiot. To all who date outside of their race go for it love is love regardless who or what race they are. I like White woman, Blk woman, Latino woman and just about any other woman regrdless of race. I just love woman, period! moaning in ectasy is the international language. I love it!!
@ Bluecrush
There are plenty of Asian American dudes who are buff/lift and try to fit in but the problem lies with American society not accepting them/not wanting to accept them, always finding faults and saying that its because they are Asian that they have these faults, etc. etc. Many of the skinny/nerdy Asian guys I know don’t even bother with trying to be macho because they believe it is a complete waste of time and will not gain them any kind of acceptance and to an extent this is true. And anyways getting buff/strong should be something that guys do for themselves as it is an overall health benefit. Screw doing it for girls. That isnt a healthy mindset and puts the power to judge in the hands of the girl.
It’s kind of hard to want to fit in with whites/other races when most of our lives we have been bullied to the point where some of us (like me) have fought back physically and even gotten in trouble for it and to the point that certain white people, who look similar to those who bullied us, instantly trigger mental alarm bells. It is akin to PTSD and may even actually be PTSD. Kind of hard to want to hang out with white people or whoever when your initial reaction is to cringe or try to quell the sudden hatred you feel inside of yourself.
So you chicks want a masculine man. A masculine man by definition is dominant and is not afraid of physical confrontation. Yet when shit happens and if we do beat up someone for attacking and throwing racial slurs at us we are not congratulated. No instead we are seen as the “other” or as the weird Asian guy who trains martial arts quite a bit and we end up being shunned. And then people twist that to say “Oh look this Asian guy can defend himself physically and is good at fighting I bet he would beat you if you were his girlfriend.”……. No dumbfuck I reserve curb stompings and beatings only for racist pieces of shit. I would never hit a pretty girl and scar her. Why the hell would I do that? On the other hand, if a white guy or white looking guy (Latino, Middle Eastern, Northern Indian) were to display the same kind of martial arts ability in self defense, most “American” girls would be all over them. But when an Asian guy defends himself he’s just shunned.
Just look at how they treat/look at Jeremy Lin. Doesn’t matter how good of a job he is doing. No matter what he does, they make him a laughing stock or try to poke fun at him or try to insult him. No matter what an (East) Asian man does in America, he will always be looked upon as the enemy and with suspicion. And I guess that could also be because Asians are the newest immigrants due to the Chinese exclusion act and Gentleman’s act (Japanese exclusion) that lasted basically until the end of WWII.
Looking at history, it’s pretty obvious this country is built on the principles of shunning/hating/rejecting/killing peoples of East Asian descent. And you only have to pay 3,780 bucks to kill an Asian guy and get away with it. In America that’s how much our lives are worth (Vincent Chin for those of you who are ignorant). Funny how even on Wikipedia it is described as an “attack” and not a “MURDER.” But I guess that’s how Americans see Asian males. We are worth less than even dogs to them.
@ Gisette
Know that you are in the minority. Women in America who are even moderately attracted to Asian men probably only make up about 2% of the population in any given area. Maybe less. And out of all US women, probably only about 10% would be willing to/seriously consider dating the average Asian guy.
Also, most Asian guys do not exclusively date/want to exclusively Asian women. Maybe the more traditional/FOB ones but I can assure you that any real Asian American dude is basically open to dating any kind of girl as long as she is good looking.
And no not all Asian guys are financially successful and the ones you see who are above average financially got there because of extreme dedication/nerddom and are able to earn it because of their intelligence/talents and often times these people are actually underpaid by their white boss. So for an Asian guy of about average intelligence it is a nightmare because we don’t have the natural intelligence like intelligent Asian guys yet are judged against these super geniuses and the only way we would be able to compete is to give up taking care of ourselves physically and studying 24/7 and even then we would probably only land a mediocre job and never get anywhere cause of white bosses. So advice to other Asian guys is to try to find an Asian American brother who is your boss instead of ending up working for whitey.
You keep talking about us “putting ourselves out there.” For your information, many of us who are socially isolated/have been socially isolated due to racism since middle/high school have issues “putting ourselves out there” because we have never really done that shit before. We don’t really know how to or just don’t have enough friends or most of our friends are single and are in the same boat as us. We don’t know when a girl is interested in us unless they fucking tell us or they mention that yeah I date Asians. Obviously you girls want guys to ask you out. How the hell do we know if you date Asians or don’t? Body language varies from chick to chick so thats is hardly reliable.
So if I were going to evaluate myself. Yes I am slightly above average in looks (definitely above average if I lived in Asia). Yes I am muscular. Yes I am moderately athletic and know martial arts. Sure those qualities may be attractive to some women. But why the hell should I go around asking girls to go on dates as if I’m using a shotgun? It would take forever (especially because I have standards) if I keep asking randoms and do people even fucking do that? “Hey girl, you look so fine, wanna have dinner tonight?” No I bet if I tried that even on a chick in one of my classes, they would look at me funny and walk away. Plus most girls I see who are desirable are always hanging off some other guys arm or with a bunch of guys (probably getting gang banged by them as well). Basically most of the good looking girls are usually already taken. That leaves the overweight and unattractive (facewise) girls. Why would I ask those girls out if I myself am objectively out of their league? It is American media/image/height requirement shit that lowers how desirable I am. In Asia I would be “hot shit.” I bet many would rate me an 8/10 at least especially because I get compared to Taeyang and this other Korean popstar a lot. But here in America I’m probably only a 5/10 cause of my height at 5’6″ + being Asian. So imagine what a 5 or 6/10 Asian guy in Asia would feel like in America. I really feel for my Asian American brothers who have it bad in the face department cause no girl wants to date them or they have to settle for very plain/ugly chicks. Anyways when only something like 30% of the girls are girls I would date, take 2% (percent of girls who are into Asian guys) of that and that is how many chicks I actually have a chance with AND I would be willing to date in any given area (0.6%). So that is definitely not a lot to work with. If that is the percentage of succesfully finding a girl that I like both physically and mentally, is it even sane to spend a lot of effort trying? Add on America’s bullshit racist society + money that I have to spend on my girlfriend, and perhaps you can understand why sometimes even the good looking Asian guys just don’t give a fuck anymore and why many of us give off that “cold” vibe you talk about. It’s because #1 we are pissed about the whole fucking social hierarchy and #2 we have given up on finding a chick here and are going to opt for something like an STD free mail order bride from russia. Just kidding or maybe not I’m actually thinking about it I mean at least she would be grateful I just have to make sure she doesnt try to steal my assets.
Anyways I’ve made peace with the very real possibility of being foreverstallone.
Bluecrush @
[This happening with Asian women in America, does not seem like it will stop. It is just going to increase.]
Actualy according to the census white-asian couples have decreased in percentage due to immigration. With more asians coming to america the percentage of asians marrying non-asians decreases. The same is happening with hispanics. off-topic but black-white couples increased instead.
My take is that there will always be interracial couples but they will always be a minority, the only cases where interracial mixing seems to be rampant is where some minority group is surrounded by another group and outnumbered by millions (asians in america) or in colonized countries=massive rapes/slavery. (african americans/latinos)
PTSD, I never thought bullying could go that far. When I was in elementary and higschool I got bullied and I bullied kids. I got into some fights but I am pretty tall so, people would think twice before getting into a fight with me. Dude, if someone gets PTSD 1)they need counseling to deal with the trauma 2) why didn’t their father/mother in some cases teach them to fight or to face their bullies no matter what, never cower, if you have to take a beating, take the beatings. Take self defense, boxing, weight training and then woop their asses. My brother was so skinny when he was in elementary and he got bullied. If you see him now, he is a body builder and huge. He never gets into fights now because he is 6’4 and big and buffer than WWE wrestlers. In highschool I got bullied by some teachers and students. One day I had to put hands on a girl, we fought, both got wounds but she never came at me ever again.
As for racial slurs, growing up in a predominately white area, me and my brothers are no stranger to racial slurs. Yeah we fought when we were kids but now that I am grown, what’s the point? Why get mad over some idiot’s faulty reasoning? One thing I know, is that success is not racist. The ones that I know that are usually racist are people that are not successful and have nothing to brag about but their so called ‘race.’ Once I know someone is racist I just don’t f*ck with them. I cut them off quick. Yeah they may not say n*gger but I wont be a token for any of their lives. I have very few white friends now but I know how to deal with them in the outside world. Most of my friends are minrities of some sort.
The thing you need to understand about white people is that at least 75% of them are racist to some degree, they may not say racial slurs but as long as they are better than you, then the world is in order. They like to have their token black and asian friends to prove they are not racist or they goto Africa or Asian to do charity work to show what good people they are but they will not help out the minorities in America. Why is that? America has tons of problems but they rather help out foreign Asian and blacks rather than the one’s in their own land. Because those ones are not competition to them.
I say, like who likes you, don’t mess with men or women who make you work too hard to be in their lives. The same thing goes for dating. There are plenty of American women who are into Asian guys but you have to get out there. Don’t mess with the women who have already pigeon-holed you.
Trust me for blacks and whites in the dating world the grass is not always greener on the other side. Both have their issues with dating. Whites get their pick of women but can’t seem to hold on to them or they marry to satisfy society and end up having affairs, live double lives, and some even turning into molesters. Black men have the burden of finding women who are down to be with a black man and not run when things get too hot. Black men may be glorfied by white media as sex objects but who wants to a fetish to white women and men, that’s gross.
Anyway, I ramble…hope this helps.
@ Bluecrush
It seems that you didn’t read my post. In my case I DID start learning martial arts at age 7 and still practice it today in addition to weightlifting (and I can lift quite a bit for my dwarf (5’6″) size -> 400 lb deadlift, 225 x 4 bench press, 115+ barbell bicep curl, etc.). And I did end up beating some kids up in middle and high school. But all that happened for me standing up for myself and beating up the bullies was that I ended up getting shunned and viewed as a threat. There is a double standard where no matter what the Asian guy does, he is bad/a loser/oucast, etc. On the other hand, white looking people are generally seen as the good guy no matter what. This same phenomenon occurs in hollywood. See what I’m getting at? Americans are too damned brainwashed racist and stupid. There is no changing the racism that is hardwired into the dna of most Americans (most non-Asian Americans, but even Asian American girls dislike Asian guys so…).
Great thread, guys. Here’s an article talking about how more and more Asians marry other Asians. Duh.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/fashion/more-asian-americans-marrying-within-their-race.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&adxnnl=1&smid=fb-share&adxnnlx=1333465206-SAnfwtdHed5fvzyvARdV0w
@K Takaki
Then I’ll happily count myself as a part of that number. Honestly though, most of my female friends aren’t hostile towards Asian men. Most just don’t seem to be attracted to Asian features. Is that really hostile racism? Maybe you can peg that as how the media stereotypes Asian men, but I think it just has more to do with who they grew up around and that they didn’t really become exposed to the culture (and weeaboos don’t count). Maybe it is racist, but I’ve tried hitting on tons of Asian guys, and only a small percentage have returned even an inkling of interest or more. I don’t take this as a racial affront, since you really can’t alter physical preferences if it’s been hardwired into someone’s brain after awhile. Or maybe there’s just a plethora of reasons why I’ve been turned down that varies from person to person. Who knows?
Well, hey, you can say it on here, but chicks like me who are interested assume differently. Seriously, if you look up on Youtube girls who have come out of the sushi shop (eh, can’t think of a better analogy), tons of them will mention how they’re absolutely sure that Asian guys don’t want non-Asian girls. And so the minorities who are interested think that it’s pointless because they’re sure that A-boys won’t want them no matter what. True that looks are subjective, but what’s hot to one isn’t to another, I suppose.
You see, statistics still show that out of any race in the States, Asians are the highest earners; if you want proof, here it is: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920725&slug=1503939, http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Business/Asians-have-highest-incomes-says-Census-Bureau, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affluence_in_the_United_States#Race. Sure, maybe it’s marginal and that they’re being ripped off by a cheapskate boss, but that isn’t the case every time. That’s as naïve as thinking that one race will only go for their own kind, so not all bosses are like that. I’m sorry, but I’m getting kind of tired of you guys getting pinched just because people stereotype you guys as smart. You think that’s so bad? White women are seen as gold-digging sluts who will only settle down once they’ve stretched their ‘gina to the max. And once they do, they’re going to divorce the husband and take him for everything he’s got. Your Asian sisters are seen as a fetishy fantasy of submissiveness and kinky maid outfits. Black men are seen as ghetto gangstas who want nothing but sex and debauchery, and black women are painted as loud and arrogant. White dudes are written off as frat boys who want unlimited sex and booze and porn, and their mascot is Scumbag Steve, and that they want to eliminate every non-white person on the planet. Arabs are terrorists who live to blow shit up, Jews launder money, and all white people want a global genocide of every race unlike their own. Hispanics are seen as sloth and dependent on welfare. And the worst you’ve got it is being seen as too smart? You’re shitting me, right? Sure, maybe the asexual nerd/martial artist can be thrown in there, too, but is it really that bad? And you know, at least you’d have a job while the rest of us non-Asian, non-white-males flounder for a place at McDonald’s. Plus you might have the advantage as being seen as smart and responsible before you utter a word to whitey boss man. Not exactly a terrible stereotype to have, if you ask me.
I know what it feels like to be socially isolated. Probably not from racism, but I was bullied like hell in elementary school and middle school and didn’t have the ovaries to speak up. I mean, I’ve been publicly humiliated more than once, and betrayed by people I thought were friends. It got so fucking bad that here I am, taking a break from online high school, at home, because I couldn’t socially function in a normal high school. If I were talking to you face-to-face, I’d probably run away, since I did that a lot in school, while you’d at least have the balls to go so far as fighting. For me, that would be fucking traumatic. I’ve got issues with putting myself out there, too, but I’ll grab on to opportunities when they arise. Dude, you really need to get on Imgur on Reddit or some other asshole of the internet and see that there are leagues of -le gaspeh- white dudes, non-white dudes, and dudes in general who haven’t seen a pussy before in real life. Lots of girls are turning into hermits, too. And with girls, it’s hard for any guy. And if a girl isn’t interested in you and disses you because of your Asianness, it’s probably someone who shouldn’t be allowed to breed. Ever. If you’ve got the balls to fend off some dumbass racist, why not act like a dick and swagger on over to a random hot chick and try asking her out? Get drunk and go to a nightclub and shag some random sexy woman in a hotel room. Seriously, it sounds like the only thing keeping you from landing a girl is your cynicism. And, yes, some girls may expect that. But girls don’t have it easy, either. Some choose to wait because they think that they’ll somehow wound a dude’s manhood. Maybe being Asian puts you at a disadvantage, but if you’re picky, that’s not making your dating life and better. (And dude, it sounds like you are pretty picky.)
Well, congratulations for posting an eHarmony profile on the net of all places. And yes, you should walk around with a shotgun and ask out every girl you see. Why? Because, other girls will see that you not only have balls, but you have balls of steel, and if you just shrug off rejection like a fucking boss, maybe a couple of chicks who meet your standards will drop their panties (god, I need to get off of Imgur). And dude? It’s a simple fact that most good-looking girls are taken. They probably have a waiting list that fills any vacancies, so maybe you should lower your standards a little. Maybe instead of steaming over the fact that the hot blonde has a date every night, you should try looking around at other girls who are just cute. You’re not the only guy in the world who has that problem. You can’t act as if there’s a hot chick reserved for you (which a lot of guys seem to think they’re entitled to), and now and then you need to set your sights a little lower. You’re not getting married, for Christ’s sake. But if you want a hot chick, realize that you can get one. There’s a dude named JT Tran that fucks hot women whenever he feels like it. And he’s probably less than you are in all departments (heard he’s 5’5”, my height!). If a dude less than you are can get playboy bunny pussy, then you can probably land a hot chick yourself. And maybe your bros will get the short end of the stick, but lots of guys don’t get Megan Fox to jump in bed with them at the end of the day, either. Okay, if the hot Asian guys don’t give a fuck anymore, what do you want us girls to do about it? Give you a BJ to prove our point? The reason a lot of WM’s are successful is because at some point the learn to get real and sometimes settle for the average girl. Even the pretty girls may do that when they realize that other guys just want them because they’d make a good fuck and arm candy. So your hot chicks may settle for average Joe’s themselves.
K Takaki, I’m not trying to bash you or anything, but I’m just trying to make a point that maybe you need to wake up. Asian guys are getting popular—as hell (just ask the inordinate popularity of Kpop on YT and the net). But in the same respect, you’re just knifing yourself in the balls by giving up. You really have better chances than you think, and for fuck’s sake, stop blaming the past and your heritage. I’ve been rejected by plenty of guys, Asian included, and I’m sure it’s not because I’m ugly or anything (I’ve been called sexy/good-looking/whatsayyou on countless occasions by both genders) but because they just weren’t attracted to me. It’s also because they’re individuals who might not be on the market, or just plain want something else in a girl. And my past can go fuck itself, because I’m living in the present. You need to do the same and just try to keep your sentiments in check, because they won’t do jack shit in finding the girl or life you want. You’re not the only one with issues, dude; I’ve met scores of people who have been around the block a zillion times. You’ve got issues, I’ve got issues; everyone on the planet has issues. If they’re hard to get over, fine; dwell on them. But until you learn to move on and remind yourself that you’ve got the fucking muscles and strength and badassery to take on racism, you’re not doing yourself any favors.
If you want to be foreveralone and cynical for the rest of your life, by all means, do so.
@Reflective SAM
You see?
Yeeeeah, this kind of hits the nail on the head as to why girls are too skittish in asking Asian guys out. IR relationships are in a minority, especially when A-boys rub it in our faces that they just want Asian women as wives. So, why should we even bother?
Hey Gisette,
Thanks for posting, and trying to lift the spirits of these Asian brothers. You bring up a lot of great points. I think you underplay the negative stereotypes towards Asians, and overplay the negative stereotypes of non-Asians, but for the most part, you’re dead on. For some reason, a lot of Asian guys are sensitive; too sensitive. They haven’t developed enough toughness to take the abuse of living in a white society. That’s something I think SAMs can improve on.
A lot of it has to do with community I think. SAMs need to support each other, and work together to improve their situation. Oftentimes, Asians just aren’t that helpful even towards other Asians.
And in terms of Asians not dating outside their race; one reason is obviously confidence. Another is the unfortunate brainwashing we’ve had from our parents. They expect their Asian sons to marry Asian and continue the legacy. Asian girls? Parents can care less. That’s the double standard that many face. But, as you mentioned, a lot of SAMs just are attracted more to Asian women for some reason. But, I agree they need to adapt and try dating out.
@ReflectiveSAM
I feel kind of odd reading all this stuff about whites and asians, but I’m not saying it’s bad. I feel stumped reading it because I haven’t read anything on blacks and asians or just minorities with asians in general. I’m a black girl and I understand why asian american guys get upset when they see an asian girl with a white guy. It puzzles me, too. I sometimes think the same can be said for black girls who try to date outside their race and the black guy gets upset. They feel like something is wrong with them and think that they can’t make a girl the same race they are happy. Especially if it’s a white guy. This also makes me understand why some asians think white people are the way to go. Whites basically have the power here in the U.S. This is basically the case for any minority living in a country with a majority race. If I were to stay in Taiwan and wanted to have a friendship or relationship, I’d have to adapt to the culture. That’s what people from other countries do when they immigrate to the United States. Some become “white-washed” and others just…don’t.
@Gisette
Like I said I don’t think you understand what it is like being an Asian guy who would be very desirable in Asia yet here in the USA I’m not just because I’m Asian. And no. I refuse to lower my standards because I know I could get a chick at about the same attractiveness rating as myself. I would rather die having never been in a relationship than to date an ugly or fat girl. I have pride. Maybe some people do not but I will not lower myself to that level. I will never beg. And if I am to be a beggar in the USA just because of my race, then fuk this country.
Anyways I am too much of a misanthrope for me to seriously consider ever getting into a relationship. But this is what society has made me. Yes there are a lot of Asian guys out there with no issues but I bet they were raised in areas where they were able to make friends with their own ethnicity or other Asians and had an environment where at least most of the time they were able to mingle without fear or rejection because of their race. In other words these Asians have been living in bubbles their whole lives. You are right that cynicism is probably the biggest reason but it isn’t really cynicism when what I believe is true. You can’t deny how much hate there is for Asians. You seem to not be able to see just how bad the stereotyping/hatred for Asians is outside of cities such as San Francisco and Seattle. The problem is that it seems many Asians live in a bubble where they don’t know what the fuk MOST of America thinks of them. The majority of Americans, I can guarantee, would probably support sticking all Asians into concentration camps if say relations with China or some other Asian country got bad because we aren’t really people to them. Just look at how they treat Jeremy Lin. Also why do you think many of the recent shooters who have done crazy sh!t in schools have been Asian men? These guys have been pushed to the point where they finally decided to put their foot down and say fuck society I’m not taking its shit anymore and it is time for payback.
Re-reading/studying America’s history I now realize that America doesn’t want us here and never wanted us here (Chinese Exclusion Act, Gentlemen’s (Japanese) Exclusion Act, Chinese slave labour on the railroads in the 1880s and in the gold mines, concentration camps for Japanese AMERICANS). The only reason they did repeal the acts was probably because they wanted the brainpower of Asian scientists. Aside from blacks we are the most discriminated race, though you could argue that blacks are no longer really discriminated against as overtly and blacks were here longer so the majority of Americans are more comfortable with them and view blacks as ‘true Americans.’ Asians on the otherhand no matter how American they are will always be viewed as something else -> sometimes a foreigner, sometimes ‘not really an American,’ sometimes subhuman, etc.
Anyways I am going to continue learning Mandarin (luckily already fluent speaking wise) and Korean/Japanese so that one day I might be able to live in NE Asia. I’m frankly pretty damn tired of the American culture of excess doing meaningless sh!t like going drinking every weekend and doing stupid stuff. ANd I definitely regret having been born/raised here because now I will have severe issues living in an Asian culture. I can’t fit into American culture and I can’t fit into Asian culture. So I can’t even realistically “go back to Asia” like most Americans want me to do.
@ Brittany
Even if you are almost completely whitewashed like me you don’t fit in. They always treat you differently/shun you even if you are basically a white guy with an Asian guy’s body and the ability to speak an Asian language fluently. Maybe it’s just because I am not very likeable and annoying but if that were so, I wouldn’t be able to make acquaintances so easily. Maybe it’s because I look pissed off a lot of times and people have commented before at the gym that people walk circles around me because it looks like I want to kill someone but truthfully society does piss me off most of the time. Perhaps it is because of the cliqueness of American culture. And historically Asians have always been viewed as outsiders and it seems this generation is even less accepting of Asians than the last. It’s funny because I find that 30-40 year old non-Asian guys are people I can get along with pretty well. They aren’t as fucked up or are more mature and less racist. So to all my Asian brothers who are able to leave America, I say find a way to get out quick because you are not really wanted here. And if you find yourself not fitting in anywhere perhaps it is time to try to make friends with other Asian American bros and to get an Asian American wife (which I am happy to see is becoming more common). Nobody other than other Asian Americans can really understand us.
@K Takaki
I really can’t blame you for your life experiences and what it’s made you into. I’m not an Asian guy, but most of the ones I know are pretty normal and have a pretty balanced circle of friends. There are 14 million Asians here, so obviously there will be those that know the bitter sting of racism and those that don’t. I don’t know any guys like that, so I can’t say. I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t give an opinion, but I do agree that you shouldn’t lower your standards for shit. Hang on to that pride, because obviously it has made you tough and has given you some closure between yourself and this fucked up country this place has become.
I really can’t vouch for how depraved America has become, I really can’t. I’m not sure if you follow politics, but maybe you’ve heard of a certain Wisconsin governor who passed laws that not only took away equal pay for women, but also takes aim at minorities and those who aren’t heterosexual white males, to put it frankly. And you know, it’s not even just your love life that may be at stake. With the dumbass Tea Party and conservatives rising up, white people within their numbers are basically initiating a war against anyone who is against them and is non-white. You even see it on the internet how dumbasses cultivate a culture of racism, narrow-mindedness, and pop-culture over-saturation that is killing their minds and sealing their hearts. I can’t tell you how many bitches and bastards I’ve met and encountered of my race that makes me hate this generation. You know, I didn’t want to pull up politics and shit because I thought that should be pushed aside and that maybe you guys could use a leg up. Maybe it’s some crazy conspiracy theory shit, but with those conservatives spearheaded by FOX really getting serious and rising up, the rest of us have good reason to fear them. There are Minutemen patrolling the border that really should be considered a revival of neo-nazism, and they’re ready to instigate violence just because these Mexicans want to protect their families. I don’t know about you, but this is way bigger than just covert discrimination. There’s something seriously fucked up with society, and I think you’ve borne the brunt of it. I honestly can’t say what’s wrong, but all I know is that it wants to keep minorities like you and women like me under its heel. And with the shootings, it’s not just Asians. There’s also Columbine and Chardon, which happened creepily close to where I live, and it seems to me that society is heading in a disastrous direction. In nations as equally developed as the US, this isn’t a problem. Go to any country as equally developed and fair (not just by pretense) as America and shit like this isn’t a problem. Just one look around and you’ll see that the US is as fucked up as God was in the Old Testament.
During WW2, a lot of German-Americans were held in concentration camps, as my grandfather was one of them. As for blacks, no, their standing really hasn’t improved. They are still the most discriminated against, and as someone who had a lot of black friends, it seems that this country’s master mentality over them hasn’t subsided. Just look at hip hop culture and rap propagated by the media; violence is treasured, abuse is something to be prideful in, and that crime makes you strong. And who runs this industry? White men. If it weren’t for Asians’ status as a model minority, you’d be the same as Hispanics, blacks, and other minorities. Throw in Hollywood’s dehumanization, that’s another brunt to bear. You know, it might sound really hypocritical of me to suddenly start agreeing with you, but there’s always the thought that ignorance is bliss and that wiping away very real problems can somehow alleviate them. That’s how I was when I was going through my friendless years, that somehow it would all get better. It did for a problem, but it evidently crippled me. I don’t know how much loneliness you’ve suffered through, but I can say that you just can’t forget about it. Yes, I am a hypocrite, but girls like me always think that pep talks are the answer. :p
I think I might leave myself. Honestly, I love America for its innovation and contributions to the world, but those accomplishments are shamed by what our society has become. Our education sucks and schools are a competitive society of bullies and let downs. No way in hell I want my future children to have to go through that. Plus, we’re sunk it so many ways that it’d be impossible to list them all here. You’ve seen them, I’m sure; at least in Europe, even though their economies are sinking, they’re getting right what America is always getting wrong: social justice, equality, and fairness in all its colors. Plus, my mom’s side of her family is crazy conservatives, that I’m honestly beginning to think that they’re like the new Nazis of our era. My dad doesn’t give a shit for me or my sister, so leaning on him for support is out of the question, too. K Takaki, trust me, if you get out of America, you’ll be doing a lot more than improving your love life. You’ll be doing yourself and maybe a future family a huge favor by not bringing them here. Because it seems to me that things will be turning extremely shitty very soon.
Hm. Well, if I’ve made myself out as a weirdly paranoid fanatic here, my apologies SAM community. :/
wow! first of all let me say its not as easy for us black males to pull an Asian female as it is for our white counter-parts. With so many stereotypes working against us,and how for the most part how many but not all asians hold them to be true. Being married to an hotter than (yoon hye Eun)Asian woman(Korean) opened my eyes up to the.disparities of interracial dating. Which I agree, truthfully with the Asian male gets the shorter end of the stick.
As a black man I didn’t get my wife by pulling down my pants and showing her my hardware or acting like an ignorant street thug. I charmed her with wit and subtlety without being pushy or too aggressive. on top of that I took interest in her culture which she is very proud of.Keep in mind I was the first and last black( dark skinned from the hood) man she ever dated. I’m not going to kid no one she did have few short romantic flings with white guys. I’m non bias or jealous ’cause they are exactly that nothing more but flings.
We met ton of resistance from family, elitist, ethnocentrist, and your classic racist towards our union. Believe me I was not naive coming into the relationship seeing what Koreans and blacks thought of each other before and after the riots, but we can only blame ourselves for playing into these roles against each other like puppets.
what bothers me is how Asian males put us in the same category with white guys when they no that is furthest from the case. Especially when it comes to dating an Korean woman whose educated and from a “upper middle class social standing “. I’ve lived in Korea with my wife who was my girlfriend at the time, I remember the bluntly put insults and plain disrespect she had to endure for loving me. Which is Why I respect her more than any woman in the world. She could has just as easily left me for a white/Korean man and played it safe.
A pair of.twins later we are just as happy as we ever were. On another note is just me who think Koreans have strong genes? I can’t get it past me my sons look nothing like me exc3pt for the obvious curly hair and other tiny features. they are very high yellow but not pale like many east asians.
@ K Takaki,
Your comment to Gisette: ‘And out of all US women, probably only about 10% would be willing to/seriously consider dating the average Asian guy.’
I personally think there are more women into dating Asian men but I could be wrong. But US population is around 305million. Asian population accounts for about 7.6%, therefore, would not the odds be in your favor?
I honestly don’t believe it is that hard for Asian men to get girls. To get American women you need some swagger and you HAVE to put your self out there and not be afraid of rejection. Eggs are expensive but sperm is cheap, therefore men will ultimately have a harder time securing a mate(s). Like black and white guys I think Asian guys are very attractive and wish they would ask me out more. Though there are less Arabic men in America I have higher chances of dating them than an Asian man because they actively persue me. Some of them get shot down but some of them are just too charming that they get my number. Looks are not the deciding factor in getting panties.
You may see it that Asian men are being discriminated against but join the club along side blacks, arabs, and latinos. White men get thier pick but many women are over the illusion of ‘the white.’
Women want men who will hold down the fort, be responible, respect their parents but DONT let their families control their lives, confidence (confidence to get turned down but not lose thier pride and keep it moving) and put in the work to make them feel like women. If you don’t have swagger you better find a way to get it. Even if you have look it up and read about it. There are quite a few books on this…I have 5 brothers and I have caught them reading some of these books and they don’t have a problem with getting ladies. Where there is a will, there is a way.
@colombian
Hey, living in Washington I saw these trends of interacial dating between Asian women and white males. But I did come across this article. But I think for some interacial dating is intriguing, it is something new and fresh. For me I don’t care either way. A man is a man at the end of the day.
Hope this helps.
@K Takaki, Can you please stop whining? You make us Asian dudes look like pussies . Instead of complaining how “bad” society treats Asian guys, I think you need to allocate some time elsewhere instead arguing on these boards. I’ll let you on on some tips, they apply to any guy in general regardless of race: (1) hit the f-en weights (2) dress nice (3) smell good (4) grow some f-en balls and talk to women. This isn’t multi-variable calculus my friend…
@Gisette – you are on point with everything you mentioned. I even get pretty frustrated with my Asian buddies when they “blame” their lack of success because of how media portrays Asian dudes. Thanks for dropping science on these dudes.
@Barn
If you bothered to read any other posts by K Takaki, you will know that he does work out, and is anything but a pussy or a whinger.
By your same logic, I can ask you to stop making Asian people look so stupid by ignoring the obvious bias against Asian males in the media, mr calculus! Can you please explain why every Hollywood film/TV series with an Asian actress has her as a love interest of a white guy? And why Asian males are shown as weak, comical or gay? Asian newscasters are always on screen next to a white male, the Asian male is always on his own. Even someone like Jeremy Lin can’t just be treated like any other talented rookie, he has to put down in his place as a ‘chink’ with a ‘couple of inches’.
Just open your eyes to all the media brainwashing, whatever this ‘society’ concept is, it is nothing more than a media creation, for all the people growing up, TV tells them what to think, what to wear, and who to date, and the Asian male need not apply. He is uncool, geeky, feminine, while Asian women are sexy, exotic and the perfect accessory for every white guy. Are you telling me that doesn’t have any impact?
In nature it is the female who chooses while the male displays, now the Asian guys who get some success are the ones who are very attractive and also 100% westernised, like a second class white guy, yet even an ugly white guy can date a moderately attractive Asian girl, does this sound like an even playing field? A lot of women in China who have not been subjected to this brain washing actually don’t find white men attractive at all, so is this nature or nurture? Also in nature a lion pride will accept stay females but will fight off any rival male, Asian male = smart = threat, this isn’t high school algebra my friend!
Just snap out of your denial, things might be good for you now but if you don’t wake up and see the bigger picture, even you will be on the scrap heap. Just watch a little TV and observe and note it down, if what I am saying isn’t true I’ll give you a full apology and admit you are right.
@ Barn
Hey phaggot do you even lift? 225 lbs x 4 bench press, two 90 lb dumbbells for 8 reps of bench press, 400 lb deadlift, 115 lb bb bicep curl. Those are my stats. I’ve also practiced martial arts for a long time/won some full contact fights by KO. I’m not some fucking little weakass asian “whining.” I’ve done a shitload of “manning up.” The thing is that even doing that and even though I have an above average countenance, I’m making the point that society still makes it very hard for an Asian guy EVEN with these “advantages” that I supposedly have. And let me ask you this. Why is it then that an average, skinny-ass, or skinny-fat white guy can get a bunch of Asian girls while above average Asian guys have trouble in this country? There is a psychological war against Asian guys in the USA that you seem unaware of. Maybe you are in a location where there is a high percentage of Asians so you don’t feel its affects. Why don’t you travel out of your bubble and go see the rest of the USA?
@Gisette
Hi Gisette. I do not want an Asian wife. I live in South America and am surrounded by so much Brazililan beauties!! Beautiful face, shape, heart and soul. Unlike Asian American women, they donot dwell on their inflated self-worth, or imagined physical beauty, or grandiose entitlement. If you ever come to Brazil, I would like to ask you out for lunch! Good day
@ Takaki
Sorry to break it to you man, but even in Asia a 5’6 guy isn’t “hot shit” or “8/10″. and you’re right, in America that would be a 5/10 if not less. If only you spoke like a less shallow person I would feel sorry for saying this, but seeing you ranting about how all the women being “fat” and “ugly” and how you’re SO “out of their league” makes me not even sorry for saying this: seriously dude, in the dating market, a guy being short is the equivalent of a woman being fat, if not worse (at least fatness can be changed, shortness is permanent). Girls don’t very much care for a guy being pretty-faced. Take a survey, and you’ll know height is much more valued by girls than features. I know it’s not your fault that you’re short, which is why again, as I’ve said before, had you been less shallow and superficial in your speech, I would actually feel bad bringing it up. But seeing how many times you stressed girls being “ugly-faced” and SO not good enough for you, you just killed all the guilt. They may be not-for-you, but certainly not not-good-enough-for-you. a 5/10 guy isn’t hopeless, with some charm that 5/10 can turn into a 7/10; but with that bitter personality, with that disdainful tone you use to talk about women who are less endowed when you yourself aren’t even endowed, you’re a 3/10 if not less, and that’s truly what makes you hopeless.
It’s just like watching your home team being outscored. I don’t want to see asian women with other races all the time. White guys, black guys, asian guys, we’re all competing for asian women. That’s why I think it was a mistake for asians to come to America. Maybe it’s miserable in other countries but at least you’re not being outnumbered 1-20. Those same guys who date asian girls are out to humilate asian men so we won’t be a threat.
To those guys I say good luck. If you didn’t get the memo Asia’s on the rise.
@ Aqua
AMEN!!!! Thank you! I was getting really irritated at those comments too, about how he would rather die alone than have a relationship a girl who was so beneath him and how he is just so fine.
I’m a girl, and let me tell you… that attitude is woman-repellent. When guys act like they are the finest thing walking planet earth, it’s a severe turn off. Just like guys don’t like women who are so conceited and think they are the prettiest thing ever made, women don’t like that either. Even if she likes how he looks, that stank attitude kills the attraction. Because women have more men chasing them than the reverse, a guy who puts out those obnoxious vibes is going to guarantee a lot of lonely nights. That’s what is probably going on here.
Being a smug entitled asshole is a much bigger handicap than being short.
@capngown
Yeah his comments were beyond unwarranted narcissism, it was actually extremely rude the way he sells his shallowness. He talks as if girls who aren’t born pretty don’t even deserve to breathe, live, exist, or loved by others. Not only does he view women as pure sexual objects, he actually ditches other guys who dated women who aren’t exactly hot, like appearance were the only legit reason to date a woman, because he can’t see them as a human being or treat them as anything more than a blown up doll.
As a 5’6 guy without even the typical Asian top-notch education, he has next to nothing to offer hardware-wise. The only thing that could’ve atone for these would’ve been a good personality, and he sure as hell doesn’t have anything near that. Yet this guy has the standard of Donald Trump. And you wonder why he has a problem.