Why do Asians get into fights with only other Asians at clubs?

I’ve noticed this many times and let me know if you have as well. It’s quite frequent that Koreans get into fights at Korean clubs. Alcohol, bad searing Korean temper, pride, and jealousy are all contributing factors that compel Koreans to battle it out with other Koreans. This is quite nice for me because this is where I and others try to sneak out without paying. I am not paying $100 for a plate of staled fruit. And as soon as this happens, I look for the exit amidst all the chaos and violence. At any rate, the thing I noticed is that Asians and Koreans never get into fights against other non-Asians in non-Asian clubs. Why? It’s almost as if they back down or are just too passive. But the most trite and trivial things can set off a fight amongst Koreans in a Korean/Asian club. I almost got into a fight because my dancing was too good for them. What gives? I can move yes…and I can flow. If you Asian brothers can’t handle that, then we can battle it out on the dance floor rather than clock and blind side me. But I’ve never seen Asians get into fights with Blacks or Whites. Are they intimidated? Are they just passive? Do they have that much anger towards other Asians? There was a time when I used to frequent Korean clubs and there’d be fights every time I go, guaranteed. And it was always Koreans squabbling with other Koreans over the stupidest things. And I’m sure these same trivial things occur in non-Asian clubs but do the Asians there get into fights? No… hardly ever. Why?

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47 thoughts on “Why do Asians get into fights with only other Asians at clubs?

  1. SAM drinking, SAM cock blocking, and now SAM fighting at bars and clubs.

    This is why I try to meet and get to know women during the day.

  2. Well honestly, i think that Koreans are more daring than other asian ethnicities, maybe vietnamese is included in this catagory as being more brave.

    Yes Koreans never fight blacks etc..but have you seen the Rodney King riot back in 90′s, Korean shop owners caried and bought gusn and stood on top of their rooftop to shoot whoever came in. Yes, one of them shot their own Korean community member, but hoenstly, no other asian ethnicity is that daring and courageous to do so. So i give them props for that. But they really need to calm down on their temper, and somehow i feel that Koreans are generally mroe violent, and it’s aceptable to be violent. You watch their TV series and movies, someone gets into fights, gangs are considered cool, and hitting their wives are normal.

    But gotta give it to them Koreans, they know how to stand their grounds….even their student protests against the government is the most tenacious u can find in Asia. They are courageous people. But too bad, they only mix with their own kind, and that will really prove to be detrimental in the long run of things.

  3. Eh – ages ago at the Factory (or Sound Factory for us oldies) in SF, a Asian dude (I think chinese) duked it out with a black dude outside. It was about 2 am or 3 am in the morning.

    As far as why asians don’t fight in non-asian clubs….hmm, maybe because if they start a fight, all the “non-asians” will gang up and beat up the poor lonely asian guy?

    I remember back in HS when I was taking the bus home, some black or white dudes were talking about starting a fight with the asian kids. The dudes were saying how the Asians would never fight one on one. That’s why you see horder of high school Asian dudes hanging together sometime. :D

  4. Why do asians fight other asians at asian clubs? DO I really have to answe this one AGAIN?

    1. Asian guys got no game, can’t socialize at the clubs/bars and have close to a zero chance with women there. What happens next? Well.. the groups of asian guys from every corner of the club are all angry/upset, so they pick fights over stupid shit, just so they can have a story to tell about how hard they think they are at the clubs, all this, in a futile attempt to make them get attention! They are praying, FUCKING PRAYING for attention as it is in all their actions to get approval/hope/dreaming that they can shoot the shit and try to get girls to come over and say: “Oh my god Wang !, You were so brave while cracking that Heineken bottle over that 5 foot 2 inch tall Viet Namese guy with a moustache! He deserved, after all, he took a piece of our $100 sliced watermelon and canteloupe that came with our $350 Hennessy in this 5 seat booth. OK Wang, lets go to my house and screw like rabbits! You’re my hero !”

    Keep fucking dreaming.

    I have a friend , he does this every time he goes clubbing. He doesn’t know how to socialize so every time they go to a club, a fight breaks out. After every fight, him and the other social losers gather around like they are the X-Men and tell stories …Fuckign Pathetic.

    I hate being asian sometimes…

  5. Big China…you’re funny man. I like you. But honestly, i hope that you don’t hang out with those losers. I know many Asians that got game. It’s called courage and practice. Honestly, most asian guys jsut have to practice talking to girls. Be natural and be themselves. Putting up a front doesn’t get you anywhere.

    I think most girls just like guys that are sincere. So i think you are talking about the posers out there.

    I think any SAM who looks decent, and has a great sense of humor who can be down to earth can get many girls out there. Especially in Socal, where girls date anyone and everyone.

  6. To AsnDragon:

    Sadly, alot of what I say is the truth, and I don’t hangout with many of these people anymore. They never want to leave their side of “Asian Town.” All they want to do is their typical shit. I hope that’s not what you do Asn…

  7. We were involved in a fight with a bunch of black guys about a year and half ago. Some of them certainly do jump in to help their own race, while some of the Asians in our own group didn’t even help us. Needless to say, the end result wasn’t pretty.

    The Chinese are taught from young to not challenge authorities and avoid confronting, especially violent ones. While the blacks learnt to depend on each other through their struggles.

    There are so few of us Asians around as is, it is pretty sad to see that we are always fighting each other while we could be working together to fight for our fair representation. I think it comes down to better awareness about Asian American issues.

  8. I beg to differ. May be I lived in hicksvilles too often.

    I grew up in Falls Church Virginia. I was the only asian around who get into trouble. There was a small Korean population that were there but I was not too welcome for some reason. one Japanese, 5 or 6 koreans, 10 or 12 vietnamese. I hung with the whites and mixed crowd of very americanized latino population.

    I got in a fight with an asian only once. ( he beat up a friend.)If I didn’t have music I probably got into MMA or something stupid…(Sorry ididn’t say MMA is stupid…phfew!)I was so imature at the time. (very busy kid)

    Some parts of us(mostly California) Canada Asians are not messed with. San Jose,SF,Vancuver……

  9. One of my best friends were a KA.
    By the time we became friends he was a gentleman, but all were in fear of him who knew his past. He was two years older than me and went off to college somewhere.

    Tom! where are you man?

  10. Even soondooboo almost got in a fight! A Korean guy got upset because I walked between him and his girl while they were talking. he start shouting, my friends start shouting, it was crazy!!! Sojuu makes you wild and crazy.

  11. Holy shit. I read the same thing from mixed girl in New Orleans. She basically said that fights always broke out in Asian clubs, hardly ever in white clubs, so they even started to ban asians from entering.

    And I pretty much agree with Big China.

  12. hmm again…been perusing this site but again, Single Asian Male, why the subtle knock on Koreans again? First the wife-beating slant.

    Lose a girl to a Korean? Lost a fight to a Korean? Makes me wonder if you’re site truly an Asian American website. Been noticing you’re ops and you may be letting your subconscious thoughts on one group out of the bag…same general statement can be applied to just about every Asian American club out there…I know.

  13. It’s all about having face in Asian Culture. If Asians reading this don’t know what “Having Face” mean, then I can’t help you. White, black, and brown culture don’t have that. All 1st and 2nd Gen Asians should know what I mean. 3rd and later Gen might not.

  14. I wasn’t knocking on Koreans if you read me carefully. My words tend to have many faces.

    I was saying that the Koreans I knew in Virginia growing up were guys of steel. They wouln’t put up with most of the racist stuff that went on. At least Tom and I didn’t (I’m J but)We both had friend of many races.

  15. A message I got from a My Space user:

    I know there’s alot of koreans in the washington area…but to be real, asians of all kinds fight each other all the time…It always starts a drink, then a look, then a stare, and it’s not like as asians all look for fights but when one of your friends get in a fight, whether he’s right or wrong you have no choice but to back them up or else your nothing but a punk. I’ve been involved in many fights where asians had to fight different racial groups, and it all comes down pride. Sounds childish and stupid huh? well that’s just how life works, the most logical reasons are not always the right reasons. I’m glad you can walk away and sneak out of those types of dilemas, not everyone can do that.

    So I’m reading some of the things you write about how it can difficult to be a young asian male growing up our “presumptious society” and find some of the thoughts interesting. But, but you should try to focus on more of the positive things about being asians males versus all the negative things (there’s so many!)… just my opinion…. take care
    I know there’s alot of koreans in the washington area…but to be real, asians of all kinds fight each other all the time…It always starts a drink, then a look, then a stare, and it’s not like as asians all look for fights but when one of your friends get in a fight, whether he’s right or wrong you have no choice but to back them up or else your nothing but a punk. I’ve been involved in many fights where asians had to fight different racial groups, and it all comes down pride. Sounds childish and stupid huh? well that’s just how life works, the most logical reasons are not always the right reasons. I’m glad you can walk away and sneak out of those types of dilemas, not everyone can do that.

    So I’m reading some of the things you write about how it can difficult to be a young asian male growing up our “presumptious society” and find some of the thoughts interesting. But, but you should try to focus on more of the positive things about being asians males versus all the negative things (there’s so many!)… just my opinion…. take care

  16. my piece about the stereotypes involving korean males in particular was actually addressed to the operator of this site. looking back at the recent postings including the one on korean guy’s stereotype and this one leads me to believe that there’s a little bias against korean americans.

    seeing how asian americans read this, i thought it would be interesting to point out this slant against korean americans by a japanese american writer. c’mon now, where’s the pan-asian love? a blanket stereotype often directed towards all asians as a whole is highlighted and redirected towards korean americans exclusively. notice the “asians and koreans” text…way to go, single asian male.

    fyi: like most conscious people of color, i’d like to think that i can detect a writer’s tone through a series of postings…single asian male should rethink his identity as a Japanese American first and foremost and Asian American way last on the back burner for apparent reasons. thanks.

  17. A person fights for two reasons: they think they can win or they feel there is no other alternative. Mentally, we don’t think we can beat the westerners (it may be social dominance, size, etc.) so you’re not going to see an Asian fighting a westerner. Even if you’re an experienced fighter, you know that a lack of size puts you at a disadvantage, in other words, with greater height, more strength, and longer limbs the opponent doesn’t have to be as experienced or well-versed.

    So now why do Asians fight other Asians? Because this society has lowered our morale to the point that at the least we hate being Asian, and quite possibly we hate ourselves. When we see another Asian and want to beat that person, we’re seeing ourselves and we’re really trying to hurt ourselves. I know it sounds ridiculous but give it some thought tonight and it may not be as far-fetched as it seems.

  18. I don’t know where you are gettin that Zhang.

    I’ve taken on guys 200 pounds heavier than me.(only takes a couple of shots) My friend E (he’s white but)
    I’ve seen him take 3 huuuuuuge guys down with bare hands and his steele toes. He’s 5’5′.

    On the street, size is secodary to chance, speed and viciousness. I always go for the coffee cup…hahaha

  19. zhangxiaoxiong, I’ve thought about your opinion for about 5 minutes, and I think it’s plenty. There are other reasons guys fight. They fight because they are drunk. They fight because they have a violent nature.

    Personally, I don’t think we fight out a self-hate. If that were the case, Asians would be fighting Asians everwhere: at the mall, Starbucks, Walmart! Ridiculous. The reason it probably happens at Asian clubs is because of what aZnSmokeOut said, we want to Save Face. Now, this don’t mean that we have to fight, but probably due to the alcohol, some guys get violent and lose it. Then, his buddies have to back him up like the Myspace guy said. Then, it becomes a big brawl. Everyone knows that there are some people who get violent when drunk, and that’s probably what causes these fights. Also, like any clan, there is that fighting for status and respect, and you’d only do that within your clan, while other clan-members are watching. That’s why these Asians will fight at the Asian clubs with other Asians, and not non-Asians.

    But, this article does generalize to say that Asians NEVER fight non-Asians. That’s just false. But, there is perhaps a tendency for asians to fight against other asians at asian clubs.

  20. I guess I never heard of that…. I don’t hang out at all asian anypalce….. Maybe I should start….

    I don’t think I have a violent nature at all but I am proud. That’s something I’m working on now but that’s a different story.

    I started 2 fights in my life. I been in many more than two. Matter fact I could just say I’ve not really ever started a fight.( because the ratio is got a gap the size of grand canyon)

    The rest came at me when I’m minding my own business.
    I’ve just never backed down from an insult. I would return one that would start something but it has never been my thing to swing first. (Well that’s a matter of opinion I guess. When there are more than one you have to swing first.) I would at least not initiate violence.

    After my life left imature situations.(and dangerous ones)….I have had no problems with violence in my life for over 12 years. (so far)

  21. I look up on the koreans as my own. I think the Japanese and the Koreans are the same race separated by a very interesting historical and geographical split.

    This kind of statement still creates stir in Asia. That sucks shit.

  22. Haha, This topic is funny and very true. Well, if you ask me. If I go to any Asian clubs now, it’s gonna be just the mixed asian clubs. I went to a all Korean club Le Prive and Belsarre I think the names were and tried to break up a fight between (you guessed it) two Korean guys. Well, for my good deed I got a black eye. One of the Korean guys blind-sided me while I was talking to the other guy. The cops and the body guards were there and didn’t do anything! They told me later that it happens every night. What was the cause of the fight? Another guy was talking to the other guys girl.

    I am Korean but adopted, so I guess it took me a second to figure out what was going on and why the hell Koreans fight other Koreans. When i went to a all Asian club, no fights, a all Chinese club, no fights. I really don’t get it.

    Am I the the only Korean guy who feels akward in a social crowd of all Koreans? I don’t feel this way around all Chinese or Japanese groups.

    As for Asian’s with no game. I think times are changing. I see a lot of confident Asian guys around my work in clubs and out socially doing their thing, but then again i don’t see them doing game at non-Asian clubs. LOL

  23. I think what we need to remember with respect to both the article and me response to it is that of course this does not apply to each and every individual.

    It would be like me telling someone “You ALWAYS see Asian girls with white guys but you NEVER see an Asian guy with a white girl” to wit they would respond “well my sister has a friend whose cousing used to date this

  24. “zhangxiaoxiong, I’ve thought about your opinion for about 5 minutes, and I think it’s plenty. There are other reasons guys fight. They fight because they are drunk. They fight because they have a violent nature.”

    I didn’t know that fighting due to being drunk or having a violent nature was limited to Asian vs. Asian?

  25. Reflective SAM:Im in the Washington area as well and i go to the DC clubs like Fur.Anyway i have quite a few Viet friends and know others and i see lotsa viet on viet fights and occassionally viet on white.But its mostly them fighting each other over girls and other crap.Whole groups of ppl fighting.Im east indian and though i dont socialize much with them,i know its pretty much the same situation with them at indian clubs and parties..fighting each other over stupid stuff.Seems there is a greater sense of competition in different areas when ppl are with their own kind.Whaddya say?

  26. I was at a 7/11 buying coffee stuff to wake up for the morning with last of my foodstamps..

    I was I think 50 cents short…(I’m on the gov. my car broke so i got broke this month)

    There was an asian guy at the counter telling me my foodstamp card doesn’t have enough credits…..You can tell he’s thinking nasty thoughts….

    The lady that work there also knows I’m poor. after the incident, She started sweeping the outside side walk…..On my way out She’s like I wish he wasn’t here today….or you would have had coffee…

    She’s white and he’s AA

  27. Look, every fucking race of people are more prone to attacking each other than attacking some other race. Other than the isolated racial incidents, it’s very rare to see two different racial groups go at each other, that’s only in the movies and with street gangs. Which brings me to the topic at hand. Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese are notorious for violence at asian clubs. A lot of them are gangs and some of them are really nuts. I wouldn’t get too close to them. For the most part, the chaos is triggered mainly by testosterone and turf battle, you know who’s badder than everyone else. Macho bullshit. They’re a bunch of fucking morons with nothing better to do. Most of these assholes are out looking to hook up with girls and end up with their cocks in their hands picking fights with other guys to show off their tough guy attitude, hoping it would appeal to the opposite sex. A truly sad scene. I can’t stand these types. Total guidoville.

  28. O yeah, I’m Korean, which explains why I’m so aggressive with the tongue. But, you ever met me, I’m a cool mellow dude who never actually gets into trouble with anyone. Sure, here and there I’ll get in a little verbal action but it’s all in good fun, at least I think so because in the end I don’t mean any harm. Yeah Koreans are pretty tough though. I don’t hang out at those Korean clubs, but I can only imagine what goes on when the guys have enough alcohol in their blood which shouldn’t take long, asians burn that alcohol slow so the buzz is quick. I tell ya though, those Korean gals, some of them are smoking! No wonder these clubs are popular. I know the kind of girls who go to these kinds of hangouts. They are the epitome of materialism and snobbishness, but like I said some them are gorgeous, and I’ll buy them a few rounds and take one home, if possible.

  29. Are you hurt little boy? Man, grow some balls. If don’t like what I have to say, then simply ignore it and move on to the next writer. The part I like best is the fact that I can say whatever the fuck I want.

  30. I don’t like clubs…. I don’t know much about what goes on on the floor.

    Only time I’m in a club is when I’m on the stage. I don’t like the meat marketty stuff.

  31. YOU KNOW WHY ? MAYBE THE ASIAN GROUP KNEW THE OTHER ASIAN GROUP A FOR A WHILE AND THEY ALWAYS HATED EACH OTHER ? asian bash other asian because this asian has some connection to another asian that was not treated right or something lol if your asian you’ll relise how small this world is(seeing the same asian guy/girl everywhere you go) or this asian guy you know in school has a uncle thats actually your friend and its also your friends,friend brother who is also asian or your cousin is a long distance relative to your bestfriend or someshit lol there a line drawn between every asian just some dont come to relise or some are just completely surround by non asians

  32. mangohar you know why alot of old asian are tight ? because they know that everything in america is more fortunate than asia lol you dont give cheap bargain around or else everyone expect it lol look at vietnam for example .. there barley barely BARELY any vietnmaese that goes to a shop in vietnam and ask “how much is ? ok ill take it ! ”
    they’re most likely going to talk for minutes til the price getting lowered the hell down lol if not they walk away. 50c discount feels like a 50dollar discount to older parent asians lol

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