So, I’ve heard this before, Amy Tan seems to believe it, and I’ve heard it recently on another site. However, I have personally never seen evidence of this. All my SAM friends are nice to ladies from what I can tell. But, there’s this rumor that says Asian men treat women badly. I’ve even heard we are abusive and violent. Is this truth or fiction? Where did this rumor originate?
I was thinking perhaps it’s because Asian men are considered ‘unexpressive’ or ‘stoic’, and we have the stereotype that we don’t show as much affection towards women as whites or blacks. Perhaps this has been misconstrued to mean that we treat women badly. Granted, more traditional Asian men may expect a woman to be a housewife and cook and clean, but I don’t see this kind of stubborn thinking these days so much. Further, there are men from other races who have the same stubborn ideas.
In any case, I don’t know of any studies that show that we are MORE abusive to women than males from other ethnicities. So, what do you guys think?
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Obviously a myth. Maybe in my dad’s day, they weren’t too nice to their wives, but all my buddies treat women almost TOO nice! I think white and black guys treat women a lot worst, but for some reason or another, girls like it and keep going back for more. What’s up with that?
Opposite for me. I have been used and abused by women. I was REALLY nice to girls, take them to nice restaurant, buy them present, but then they say ‘I’m not interested in Soondooboo’. Although, lately, my luck is better.
I think EMO is right, it stems from our fathers and grandfathers days. Dude, I mean when we were kids, our parents would beat us if we we’re bad, with anything, perhaps even coffee mugs lol. So why wouldn’t they beat their wives if the shit got out of hand.
Remember Asian men of way back then weren’t equipped with our thought processes of today and our freedom. They would get married at 20 or earlier, stating mens age here. So you can remember when you were 20, you didn’t know jack shit about the world or raising a family. They knew they just should, and being 20 I’m sure stresses of life would have their toll so they would need ways to deal with anger. Nope, no therapists back then, even if there were no red blooded man would go to one back then.
This stigma is still with us today, so it really hurts our cause as SAMs to the core. But then again being super nice in the feminists era won’t get you anywhere.
Just whatever you do, don’t lay a hand on a female — it shows you’re weak cause you can’t handle your anger. Thats why its always good to do a sport, gym or something active. Cause the stesses of life need to be dispelled, and this way you get exercise too. Like they said sport was invented to replace war.
But honestly any man who hits a woman is a coward, and if you see that you should stop it and pound the shit out of the guy. I don’t care if he was a victim of abuse, or his woman cheated on him, there is no excuse for it. Life throws a lot of shit our ways as guys, but all we should do is outlive it and not let it break you down. If some shit is deep seeded, seek help
But really we do need to get this stigma away from us, any ideas how?
Well, I guess it’s all up to each of us to conduct ourselves with the utmost respect towards women. I’m not saying to be super nice, because I still think nice guys finish last. But, you can respect a woman, have fun, and maintain your cool all at the same time. The reason we decided to scrap the strip club article was that we didn’t want non-Asians to start thinking that’s what we promote as SAMs.
Really listen, and be aware of what your date wants. Do that, and ladies’ll be like “Oh, shit! What have I been missing all these years! Hello, Yellow!”
Also, if you EVER hear that from somebody, correct them. Tell them that reputation came from the old country, but in the states, SAMs are westernized, and we treat women almost TOO nicely.
yo, put yourself in the woman’s shoes and think about how she wants to be treated. be a gentleman, but not a schmuck. dating is like business. and business is war. employ some strategy start with a list of expectations like she’s your new employee. if she screws up enough in the 90d probation period, fire her ass. and then hire someone else.
the rules have changed since out dads dated, so you have to be adaptive and improvise in changing environments.
if you were a gentleman and nice to her, but she dumps you, the hell with her. she’s looking for a guy to abuse her. funny how girls like that. anyway, she deserves the shit that’s going to happen to her. you must move on.
I think that as far as Asians in the states, they are less likely to cheat on a girl than whites and blacks. It’s rare for me to hear about an Asian guy cheating on a girl. In that sense, it is unjustified to say that we treat women poorly. We could, however, work on being more expressive, but I would say a lot of us are expressive enough, you know?
I’ve never cheated on a girl, and I would feel like shit if I did. Sure passions and sex drive take over sometimes, but if you just think for a moment how your girl will feel when she finds out you cheated on her… If that doesn’t stop you from cheating, then you don’t got heart. If you really love a girl, you would be UNABLE to cheat on her.
Hey senior_dude, whatever you do on weekends with women’s shoes is your business.
Again, stereotypes don’t just fart out of thin air. If the perception is that asian men are seen as reserved and known to be strict with women, then there has to be some truth to it, wouldn’t it? If it isn’t true, how can it be a widely embraced perception? So everyone’s in on the joke, all except for asian men? C’mon. What’s happening here is that we’re marginalizing our image more than what the hype portrays by complaining about it and retracting from its obvious trivialties and insignificances. Asian men are rooted in tradition and tradition is often mocked upon for its steadfast rigidity. Don’t believe the hype.
Besides women like assholes. trust me
Yeah, stereotypes can “fart out of thin air.” It’s called demonization. It’s happened all the time: Native Americans were uncivilized savages, Blacks were over-sexed predators, etc. Not all racial perceptions are based on some truth or reality.
It is reality dummy. Native Americans were uncivilized to the context of how invading whites perceived it, and blacks, lol at your post, are stereotypical sex maniacs who account for the majority of rapes in this country. No? I’m telling lies? Racial perceptions are based on truth and reality. Take racial profiling. Highly controversial, but deep down you and I know why it exists even if it shouldn’t. I can admit my faults, can you?
Just because one group of people believes something of another, doesn’t mean it’s reality. That’s subjectivity, not truth.
Are you telling me if enough people believe in something, it’s probably true?
Rape/Sexual assault by perceived race of offender: Whites = 65%, Black = 8.3%
(http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus/current/cv0442.pdf)
Do me a favor and research your facts the next time you brilliantly pass on another damaging racial stereotype.
You stupid fool, your data presents VICTIMS not perpetrators.
Do me favor bike taker, learn how to research before making a fool of yourself.
The Y-axis is “Type of Crime and race of victim.”
The X-axis is “Percent of single-offender victimizations/Perceived race of offender.”
Thanks.
Let me clarify, someone with a subjective view on what is perceived to be a generalization is not the same as someone whose perception is subjective, since a perception is generally widely viewed and subjectivity is a biased point of view that holds no support from others with different point of views. In this case, it is perceived that racial profiling is based on a generalization of what many believe to be true because it’s based on prior facts, even if it is morally wrong to assume that.
I’m having fun fixing the mess you started bike thief. Whites account for over 130,000 rape victims, blacks only 40,000. Of the white count, 65 percent of the perceived perpertrators are white. Which means that 35 percent are not. That’s over three-quarters, which is a significant amount of rapes whites couldn’t have committed. Let’s look at the black data. Of the 40,000 rape victims, all black, an astounding 89 percent of the perceived rapists are black. That is 90 percent of all rapes accounted for. I’m not saying whites are better, but giving you facts based on the data you dug up but failed to deliver. So please don’t ever accuse me of passing along another racial stereotype when I was just providing my views based on facts.
Your assertion: “blacks … are stereotypical sex maniacs who account for the majority of rapes in this country.”
Now let’s look at the data:
Whites victims by White offenders: 65.1% of 139,900 ~= 91,074
Black victims by White offenders: 0% of 39,300 = 0
White victims by Black offenders: 8.3% of 139,900 ~= 11,611
Black victims by Black offenders: 89.8% of 39,300 ~= 35,291
Total White/Black victims by White offenders: 91,074
Total White/Black victims by Black offenders: 46,902
Look at your assertion. Look at the total numbers. I can’t make this any clearer for you.
Look at the ratio disparities
Whites = over 130,000 rape victims but only account for 60 percent of rapes as the perpetrator, none against blacks
Blacks = 40,000 (I say more but believe the data all you want) and 90 percent of the rapes were commited by blacks, plus the extra 10 percent of rapes against all other races. That is more intense in numbers within the ratio.
Sure that is because there are more whites in the country but with such large numbers 60 percent is not as intense as 90 percent.
Perception? Reality?
I rest my case.
The ratio disparity tells us Blacks, when sexually victimized, are overwhelmingly committed by other Blacks.
This is not the same as “blacks … are stereotypical sex maniacs who account for the majority of rapes in this country.”
It’s disturbing to read things like “I say more but believe the data you want.” If the data doesn’t fit your perceptions, they’re wrong or something? The data ought to shape your perceptions, not the other way around.
“blacks … are stereotypical sex predators”
I took that from you moron, go back through the thread when we were talking about perceptions.
The ratio disparity tells alot about a group, not about the larger majority smartass.
The data has flaws, an error margin, it says so in every data report ever conceived. You’re smart enough to understand this crucial element.
The data does not support “blacks … are stereotypical sex predators” either.
From the posts I’ve read from you, I can only conclude that you’re a racist. An ugly racist.
Go make some Black friends and stop festering with horrific stereotypes.
I’m done.
You don’t know a damn thing about me. You’re the one who brought up the whole black sex predator crap and I just elaborated on it, where does it say anywhere that I hate blacks? It’s you jumping into baseless conclusions of what I might be, instead of taking the debate at face value. I don’t need to perpetuate a stereotype that already exists, didnt you know? Perception is reality my friend.
Topic?
Like in so many things, here the concept of “Asian” just crumbles with the regional differences, as well as between Asian-Asians and diaspora Asians. Just within China, the regional variance is enormous. Northerners are usually pretty macho, and more prone to violence towards both women and other men. Shanghainese men are henpecked house-husbands who cook and carry their wives purses. Southerns are patient, calculating and more interested in money than face. Those are the stereotypes, I find them to be only partially true; what matters more is a guy’s educational and family background, and whether he was too much of a Little Emperor growing up. Like, one ex of mine was the youngest only boy in his extended family’s generation, so he was very used to women fussing over him and taking care of him, while reciprocating was a foreign concept.
Koreans and Japanese are reputedly similar to Northern Chinese in the macho department, but the guys I’ve met have seemed quite sweet in fact. But there is a universal Asian prediliction towards infidelity, I’d say 90% of Chinese men at least cheat casually on their girlfriends and wives. But the women are pretty bad too, maybe 60% of them cheat.
Asian-Americans are completely different from Asians, and quite a mixed bag too. Most are, if anything, nice and polite to a fault. The problem is that they can take the anal, hyper-critical lens they use on themselves and turn those on their women.
Shanghai Meimi makes some interesting facts. Adding to what she and others have said, the perception to the topic is from ones point of view.
For example, having Cantonese friends who came from Hong Kong, or still have parents there, i’ve heard a couple of things which I’m just going to pass on – by all means i’m not an expert on the subject, so take with a grain of salt.
Men do cheat on their wives in HK, so its somewhat a common occurance. So do Asian men treat women poorly? The answer would be yes, but Asian men is a wide net including the North American Asian male as well as the local ones in Asia.
But in the same occurence, do Asian women treat men poorly? The answer to that would also be yes, because married woman do cheat on their husbands as well in HK.
So the myth or perception does have some truth to it, but nobody makes the distinction between local Asian males and North American Asian males.
So particularly maybe when people or woman in general start perpetuating this myth, we should be quick to nip it in the butt and rationalize with them. Challenge their perceptions and tell them there are differences among Asian men in the east and west. So don’t lump all Asian men together because some treat woman poorly and because our parents generations didn’t care much about womans rights.
Changing the idea is a powerful tool and a shift which will help our cause as well as not give men from other races another reason to use against us. Hell, it would give our race’s women one less strong reason not to date Asian males.
You people are beating a dead horse. If people choose to see asians a certain way, it’s not because they are trying to reinforce a myth as it appears, they choose to because they want to. It’s as simple as that. To try and intellectually battle this ignorance is a waste of god given talents. Why would I care if some schmuck thinks of me as some macho wife hating monster? If that’s what you choose to believe, then so be it. I’m not going out of my to prove him wrong, fuck him or her. So asians are the only people whose men are machisimo and look down on women? I think every guy carries this stigma to one extent or another. Stop wasting your time rallying a cause when it’s actually doing you more harm. Think independently and fuck what others think. That’s kind of mentality the whites and the blacks will respect you for in the end.
hey, every dude treats his woman differently. she’s lucky if she finds a decent guy who treats her well. you can throw a lot of statistics about race, education, etc. into the mix, but bottom line is that a good family upbringing makes the biggest difference. and i think asians tend to do this well. but not so well in attracting mates.
so, i think asians treat their women well….if he can find one.
Thats the whole point, if he can find one. Fight club I honestly couldn’t care what whites or blacks think or respect, and I don’t feel the need to please them.
I like how people read half of what my posts say and disregard the rest. I’m getting fucking tired of repeating myself because people don’t read above a grade 8 level — which is what majority newspapers use.
The majority of people that hold this view is Asian woman, thats why their bloody dating everyone except asians. Perhaps their ignorant and just following other females reinforcement of the myth. So in the sense you are right about them choosing to reinforce the myth, but its more that “them” is refering to Asian woman.
So if you don’t care about dating Asian woman, thats totally awright but for the rest of us that want to we have to change the way they think of us period. And if hopefully that has a trickle down affect, so their friends tell theirs and so on. I know its wishful thinking and as you put it might be beating a dead horse, but fuck it, at least that would be doing something instead of just bitching on this website.
Well, Fight Club, here is my opinion. You said:
You people are beating a dead horse. If people choose to see asians a certain way, it’s not because they are trying to reinforce a myth as it appears, they choose to because they want to. It’s as simple as that. To try and intellectually battle this ignorance is a waste of god given talents. Why would I care if some schmuck thinks of me as some macho wife hating monster? If that’s what you choose to believe, then so be it. I’m not going out of my to prove him wrong, fuck him or her.
If it was just a few people that thought this, then perhaps I could ignore them. But, the point of a lot of these articles on this site seems to be about the perception of Asian Americans in America. A LOT of people mislabel us in this country, and it IS detrimental to us! If majority of women think ‘Asian men treat us badly’, then it’s a big problem. The argument of saying ‘fuck them’ or ‘I don’t care what they think’ maybe works in a small scale, but you don’t want to ignore what millions of people think. What you are saying is ‘fuck America’ or ‘I don’t care what America thinks of AAs’. I personally feel as Americans, it is our responsibility to improve AA rights and respect. Ignorance should be battled.
EMO and BLADE, you numbnuts missed my point. I’m not saying do this or do that to kiss up to some white or black guy. I was talking about mutual respect. That no amount of psychoanalyzing will test up to street wisdom. If people out there label us a certain way or think of us a certain way, FUCK EM. The next time some prick makes a stupid comment, set it straight and let it be known without getting defensive that that person’s a frickin’ moron! Hold your own weight, and do your part to break down those barriers. Stop relying on a larger cause to disable a perception. It comes from within, not around.
Regards to asian women. They are no different than any other broads. Most of them are self-hating, ya hear? That’s right. Most of them look in the mirror and wished for something better. Guys look in them mirror and we want better haircuts, some muscles, better skin ,etc, but generally we accept ourselves. Not women. They hate themselves. Always remember that.
Okay so you’re saying change minds one person at a time, instead of rallying behind a cause and doing nothing in our daily lives, as well don’t try too hard to change peoples perception that don’t want to hear your views or understand it?
Thats what i’m getting from rereading your last two posts, am I correct or still missing something?
If so then yes I agree with you.
But theres no reason why you can do both, rally behind a cause AND still do something towards it in our daily lives. Of course, to people who would actually listen and understand it.
But if we can open peoples minds online, that are miles away from each other and are like minded, they can also change the minds of people around them. Its like making many ripples vs one in water, the many ripples will come into contact with each other and cover physical area faster. Just an example.
Yeah, why not work with others in the same situation for a common cause? It sure as hell makes sense to me, and that’s how other races have done it. It’s much more effective, obviously. Why else did Martin Luther King Jr. protest? I think I’ll take his example above anyone writing here on this post.
Fight Club, you sure as hell write a lot for someone who believes “no amount of psychoanalyzing will test up to street wisdom” and “To try and intellectually battle this ignorance is a waste”. Why the hell do you post on this website when you feel this way? Just to get your frustrations out? Other people here actually want a constructive conversation without it getting all personal. If you’re just gonna come in, call everyone idiots, and argue with everybody that doesn’t believe what you believe, then you shouldn’t “waste” your time here. This is not the ‘Fight Club’.
And what is this comment about?:” Regards to asian women. They are no different than any other broads. Most of them are self-hating, ya hear?” Broads? Dude, if you really believe this shit, you’re gonna continue to live a lonely, bitter life, my friend. Start learning to respect people, and smile, man. You don’t always have to be right, macho man.
EMO or BLADE, no wonder you guys probably don’t get any pussy or have a hard time finding it, it’s because you fall for their shit with your naivety. I bet you’re that nice guy at the corner fixing a problem for some broad, and watch that sponge walk out with a prick she calls her boyfriend. Chances are he’s not asian. Don’t tell me what I know and how it’ll effect me, you have no idea. I’m not macho, I may appear so online but I’m quite laid-back and I keep to myself, and I never draw attention where it is unwanted. But I know how to a spot bullshit from a mile away and I never let some fool play me at his game.
Suppose that you are right about this cause and rallying. Tell me, you think these fucktards will actually take you seriously? And what are you doing exactly to embrace this cause you admire so much that you think it is just as good as changing the minds of folks one person at a time? Look, this world is filled with half decent and intelligent people, the other half are a bunch of fucking idiots. And who’s reading this stuff? White guys, black guys?? Who? Just asians like ourselves? Tell me, what are you doing to rally your cause? You talk a good game.
I wanted to elaborate on the ‘other races’ who rally to get more respect. I guess you were referring to the blacks, the protesting hispanics over immigration?, Martin Luther King?? The guy got shot and killed for speaking his mind. So much for that huh? and no offense, but look at the black situation today. Sure after what, 400 years or so, and blacks are still struggling from crime and poverty? It’s not their faults? Who’s fault is it? The whites the asians? I definitely think the whites carry some of this burden, afterall they used them as slaves at one point. yeah that was 200 years ago but people don’t forget that shit. Geez, I can’t even fathom what that burden must be like to know that your grandfather was cracked with the whip against his own will. Just imagine. MLK spoke a good game and inspired many, but in the end some fucktard shot his black ass and blacks are still trying to decipher his speeches from 50 years ago. I know all about the struggles of Civil Rights and its impact and how important it was at that time. Today it’s a little different a little more subtle and complex, now it’s Reverand Al and Mayor Nagin bitching about New Orleans and blaming the government.
Asians. We aren’t as united as a race as one would question because we don’t impose supremacy of our race. Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, and etc.. We identify more with our country of birth, not by our race, rooted in Mongolia. Even in the U.S. The Koreans will never identify themselves with the Japanese and vice versa. So when you hear whites rally or blacks rally, they are americans descending from many generations. Black americans can’t identify with the plight of the Haitians who rally for human rights! Whites are different, the ones who do believe that they are the supreme race will identify with whites from across the globe.
I’ll continue this thought later, I have to run.
Your ignorance and disrespect is appalling. It’s just embarassing.
Just because MLK didn’t end racism doesn’t mean he didn’t help make progress. He helped organize and mobilize against segregation. Now we’re not segregated by law are we? That’s rallying people to a cause. That’s PROGRESS.
Just because Blacks aren’t without crime or poverty today doesn’t nullify MLK or other people’s efforts.
Also, not all social progress can be quantified. There is such a thing as Consciousness Raising. By making people think about ingrained stereotypes, a cause can make a difference on a mass scale, if only in hearts and minds.
Racism, whether against Blacks or Asians, isn’t gonna be swept away in one stroke. It’s a long fuckin road. It’s an incremental process forward that can, from time to time, take a few steps backwards. But change is possible on an individual AND macro scale.
Yeah, Fight Club. Anytime you start talking in black or white, right or wrong, you’re gonna get yourself in trouble. (No pun intended.) Bicyclethief has checked me before, and he was right. I’ll admit it cuz I’m a man. This game of racial awareness is an incremental battle, and we here are just trying to do our part somehow. We don’t pretend to be anywhere as significant as MLK, but we are inspired by him, though I should really read more about him.
Anyways, there’s no reason to fight. This article isn’t called “Asian men treat Asian men poorly”. It’s about WOMEN! I know I’ve said a lot of chauvinistic things on this site cuz it’s a guys’ site, but I really believe that you have to treat all men and women equally and with respect. If you really do think women are ‘self-hating’ and below us, then women just become a conquest, and you’ll never be happy. Hopefully, when you get in a very serious relationship like I am in now, you will realize that you need a girl who you can talk to openly and be honest with. So long as you look down on women, you won’t be able to do that.
Shanghai Meimi wrote: Most AAs are, if anything, nice and polite to a fault. The problem is that they can take the anal, hyper-critical lens they use on themselves and turn those on their women.
I totally know what you are talking about! When you are critical of yourself, when you get in a relationship, you start imposing those beliefs onto your partner. This is a big lesson I learned. I still slip into it with my brother and friends, but I realize more that it’s my issue, and I have to keep myself in check. I could see that women would feel like they were treated badly if they had to go through that.
I’m entitled to my opinions, there’s no need for the drama. Who said I look down on women? They look down on themselves. It’s you who’s getting fooled into thinking otherwise. Trust me these broads are the most selfish self-hating crybabies when it’s all said and done. I’m seeing two girls right now, that’s right, and I always have to remind them of who they are, insecure and simple-minded sheep serving everyone else but themselves. They rely on men but will walk over us any chance they get, and act like they own the universe. They rely on us to build things, to create things, to bring home the bread. Don’t even get me started. Reflective SAM, wait a few months and your girlfriend will shine her true colors and you’ll thank me for enlightening your dumb ass. What the fuck do you know about relationships enough to give anyone advice?
Bike thief, where do you get off being so self-righteous? If you don’t like my point of view than ignore it. Instead you can’t help yourself to responding. That shows that I’ve created a buzz. I don’t know you. Why don’t you just get that stick out of your ass and lighten up?
If I sound pissed I’m really not.
Let me reiterate, Bike Thief, you’re such a tool. Everything you say is typical. I’ve noticed that everything that you write is so predictable. Do you have a thought of your own? Do you really take me for a fool?
Fight Club: “Trust me these broads are the most selfish self-hating crybabies when it’s all said and done. I’m seeing two girls right now, that’s right, and I always have to remind them of who they are, insecure and simple-minded sheep serving everyone else but themselves.”
Wow, if you have such a low opinion of women, why not just be gay and keep the company you prefer?
Yes, a lot of women are like this. I like to go around sucker punching such creatures – they give humans, and women, a bad rep – although if I’m really mean I’ll just insult their outfit, they mind that more. More whiney and self-defeating than your average A-A guy. But there are plenty who aren’t. Only I suspect a guy who says such things is too insecure and rude to ever attract or be attracted to a real woman.
Unfortunately, most women are raised to so treat themselves as commodities.
If I sound self-righteous, then I apologize. But if I didn’t voice my opinions against such warped, misinformed garbage, then I wouldn’t be doing my part.
If you disagree, then show me your arguments for me to consider. But you can’t, can you? All you have are names and personal attacks. Sorry, but that’s school yard.
(My personal favorite is when you jumped all over me for providing the wrong data chart…only to realize you misread.)
First I’ll answer to Mrs. Shanghai. Why is it that every broad counter-argues the same way? Broads always think guys who speak out like I have couldn’t be found attractive by chicks because I’m too just too rude. You broads are so full of it! It’s utter hogwash! You broads are genetically inclined to fall for assholes but you could never admit to yourself, and so therefore you’re in habitual denial that burdens you until you become some old washed up hag, and by then you really don’t care what guys think of you.
Bike Thief. You’re a tool. I’ve come to this conclusion two threads ago. Disagree with what? What are you talking about? Our debate ended long ago, I’m not dwelling on the past. Perhaps if you had something else to offer, than maybe I’ll oblige. Only a tool will accuse fair play on a forum as “warped” and “misinformed” Who gave you the throne, mr highpants? I didn’t missread the data, I was right to point out your overzealous attempt to trump up the percentage of rapists, when the data was clearly indicating the number of victims over a “perceived” not a complete accurate assessment of the perpetrators. And when the dust settled, we’ve concluded that the higher ‘concentration’ of black crimes over white crimes warranted my argument that perception on black crime is probed intently. That’s all I was trying to lay out and you want to play numbers with the data. If you read my thread, I said “whites are not better” but you’ve concluded that I was attacking blacks because I’m a racist prick. You’re just a novice my friend.
Heh. Yeah, your triumphant conclusion was “perception is reality.” Brilliant.
“Broads always think guys who speak out like I have couldn’t be found attractive by chicks because I’m too just too rude.”
I’m sure you’ve found some real keepers with your brash mouth and intellect.
Lose the arrogance and attitude. Go back to school, cuz right now, you couldn’t put an intelligible argument together to save your life.
Triumphant it is. Perception is reality because it’s an experience of seeking truth during a moment in time, a reality based theorem. It’s based on a truth but not relied on it. Think of the word “perspective” very close to the root of the term, a view or an outlook, the relationship of subjects in a view.
I couldn’t put an intelligible argument together, you say. Hmm, I think I had and it bothers you evidently. That is why you come back for more.
School? How does a masters in economics work for ya? Still need more schooling ya think?
What the hell is wrong with you, fight club? You talk soo much shit about other people, why don’t you deal with your own problems. What did you mother not hug you enough with you were growing up. You say you’re laid back guy and you’re not macho, enthough online its a different story. BULLSHIT, you are such a fucking hypocrite, and you contractdict yourself on every post.
You go spewing and ranting off like the an emotional bitch, which you keep pointing out we are.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but this is not a therapy site for your issues.
If you’re such hot shit, get off this site and go play with yourself in the corner of your room — cause honestly I doubt you got any friends, you just want somebody to listen to you whine.
Leave the debating for the people who are mature enough to participate, go your own fucking way.
But fact of the matter is you won’t, I know cause you’re a sad broken little man with no friends and no one that cares about you in this world.
Tell us what you really think blade-edge!
I said what I needed to say, I’m not going to be trading insults like a grade schooler.
All I’m saying is all the weaknesses that he accuses us of is his own, pure denial and self hatred has got to go somewhere. Unfortunately he found this site.
Look who’s getting all tangled up and lashing out like a child?
You’re so off it’s mindboggling. I’m just speaking my mind, I’m not here to make “friends” with a bunch of anonymous soul dwellers like yourselves. Get over yourself. Everything I said was well positioned and open to discussion. If it somehow went against your agenda and you took it personally, well too fucking bad little cry baby. I never judge, not on an anonymous forum. Take it at face value and stop being such a little bitch about it. If you don’t like what I have to say than fuck off, as simple as that. Fair?
The Fight Club Progression:
Topic thread.
Fight Club puts out stupid and vitriolic statements without any supporting arguments.
Someone comes along and disproves his statements with supporting arguments.
Fight Club falls back on ad hominem arguments.
Fight club never judges, right… numbnuts. You can’t state your point without insults, grow up. If you’re so superior you don’t need to be here do you?