So, I’ve heard this before, Amy Tan seems to believe it, and I’ve heard it recently on another site. However, I have personally never seen evidence of this. All my SAM friends are nice to ladies from what I can tell. But, there’s this rumor that says Asian men treat women badly. I’ve even heard we are abusive and violent. Is this truth or fiction? Where did this rumor originate?
I was thinking perhaps it’s because Asian men are considered ‘unexpressive’ or ‘stoic’, and we have the stereotype that we don’t show as much affection towards women as whites or blacks. Perhaps this has been misconstrued to mean that we treat women badly. Granted, more traditional Asian men may expect a woman to be a housewife and cook and clean, but I don’t see this kind of stubborn thinking these days so much. Further, there are men from other races who have the same stubborn ideas.
In any case, I don’t know of any studies that show that we are MORE abusive to women than males from other ethnicities. So, what do you guys think?
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dudes, the whole topic is a myth; asian men don’t treat women badly.
any of you own a ‘wife-beater’ shirt? if you ever watch COPS, it’s the tank-top type shirt that wife-beaters are wearing when they get arrested.
Well, I think we have one example on this thread of an Asian man who treats women poorly…
But, Fight Club’s argument that women are ‘self-hating’ is a new one to me. I won’t disprove him because I’ve never looked to notice it. I’ll see if that’s the case, and analyze some women around me. But, even if some women are that way, that’s no excuse for us to treat them poorly.
dudes, what the heck does “poorly” mean anyway? is it beating her every night, or not opening the door for her.
“self-hating”??? i think they’re more insecure than anything else. until they get older and realize how dumb that is.
One part. Insecurity is a form of a self-hate. I’m not a women hater by any means, I love their sweet voice, their warm minty breath, their soapy hair in the morning, their tasty soft supple skin and that beautiful round ass rubbing against my legs. I can go on but you get the drift. What the guys here fail to understand, well except for maybe senior dude he’s got better sense than most of you from what I see, is that all women are hypocritcal, self-hating, self-centered, one track minded animals, ready and willing to play any guy who’s dumb enough to fall for her prey. That does not mean a man should beat them to a pulp since we are stronger physically. When a women is treated ‘poorly’ it is no different than the abuse they impose on men in other ways. So the question should be redirected why do men and women treat each other poorly?
Two part. Women are getting physically and mentally stronger with evolution. Soon, they will play mind games with men like it was a resort casino in her mind. They can fight too. Lots of boxers are drawing in women. some of them are pretty hot too, if you’re into that buffed feminine look. But personally, I prefer women who are a little more feminine and submissive, mixed with a little tomboy angst. White girls have a good balance of these qualities. A good balance can counterbalance an overactive male ego. Guys are violent by nature, I don’t think this will change much with evolution, I just hope women don’t get this way anytime soon.
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I’m biracial, both parents Asian.
Let me point out a very troubling situation that I have noticed:
Yes, you have WF and AM.
But… nobody likes to point out that maybe the AM is the WF’s last resort.
Many WF decide to give us the privilege of their company, when THEY ARE OVER THE HILL (i.e. 35+), SEXED OUT, POSSIBLY WITH KIDS, AND DIVORCED.
I just think that is a tremendous insult.
I’m going to say, I don’t view any WF that is so aged, who suddenly developed an Asian Man attraction, with any seriousness.
Like others have said: If the kitten don’t want me, I don’t want the cat.
Please note: I AM NOT SAYING ASIAN MAN IS UNDESIRABLE. Hell, we’re the first people anyone thinks of when you say “filial piety” and “honour-bound”.
What I am saying is, after being put down so much, we accept crumbs when we need to be returning the plate to the store to get a fresh cake.
Asian Men = Pretty Damn Awesome.
Well Done! I Like it!
Thank you for sharing this. Well done!
THIS IS A LIE STARTED BY WHITE MEN
My girl friend bits and scratch me when she argues with me and cant win by logic…………………….. And I just hold her, so this is a lie from a white man who try to screw self hating Asian women.
I am a white guy, and I gotta give props to Fight Club, who is the first asian guy (at least I think he is asian) to quit whining like a pussy about all the racism from other races (every race has some form of racism), and just move on with his life, give respect where its due, and be successful. I get so fucking tired of hearing all the pussy asian men whine about waa waa waa everyone is taking our women waa waa waaa we don’t get any respect waa waa waa .. shit, shut the fuck up and just get out there and have confidence in who you are as solid, honorable asian men, and that’s when everyone will give you the respect you deserve — and you DO deserve it.
But word up to the pussy asian foi boys: shut the fuck up and quit whining. Everyone is sick of it. Listen to fight club and get some fucking balls. Be asian men of honor, and be bold and confident in your asian-ness with EVERYONE. Don’t let pussy white guys or black guys or anyone else push you around. I’m white, and I know that there are pussy white guys who try to malign asian guys. Don’t be a whiner, but also don’t go Virginia Tech, for Gods sake… just chill and be confident in who you are.. noone wants you out of america.. you ARE america… um. hello?????
I know fight club is NOT a foi boy… and I’m also sure he doesn’t have any problem with ladies of any race, so quit whining like little cheerleader bitches, get a life, and listen to Fightclub.
From my experience, I have no desire to date an Asian man ever again. After travelling to a foreign country to be with him, I was lied to, used, abused, and treated horribly.
I no longer believe in love. I no longer have any desire to be married.
I am a very giving person, and I am not stupid. I happened to meet a master at manipulation and deceit. I mourn the loss of years that I devoted to waiting for this man.
I think the reason people might think Asian men treat women badly is because of the past where women had to walk behind their husbands. My dad used to tell me about that but I really doubt a modern day man would do this or a modern thinking woman would allow it. As for anything else I’ve never heard about anything negative about Asian men except their penis’s are smaller. However I’ve only ever heard this from other men. My thoughts are, how do you know this? Hmm…. And why are you looking. More like they are insecure and making it up. lol More seriously though most women I’ve spoken to, including myself, think Asian men are attractive and intelligent. My only problem is there aren’t enough of them to go around. lol At least where I live.
Yeah I’ve seen it. Asian guys who didn’t give a shit about the girls that are hanging off them- taking their slavishness for granted. But that’s only when the asian girl was acting slavish- girls who didn’t act that way weren’t treated that way (at least not in public). As of in private there are many forms of abuse- one of them is taking another person for granted. White guys are taught multiple times a day from birth (in the last couple of decades at least) to treat women with respect while in Japan (at least) women are understood to hold certain “powers”. Different way of looking at things. Respect/independence is valued in Western society (at least since the rise of feminism) while harmony/cooperation is greatly valued in Eastern society (at least in Japan).
Asian men abusing women? Disregarding and taking them for granted can certainly be seen as abuse but it’s up to the women to sit there and take it too. She has “powers” too- not just breaking up but also communication between herself and the husband or adding certain pressures onto other parts of the household to force the man to come around.
White guys also can abuse their women but laws in Western societies (at least in US and Australia) far FAR far favour the women (even those who cry wolf) and hence most white men let their women do whatever they want cause the law will back the women.
Yea I think it’s true not abusive but show very little affection especially the old timers. But new generation not as bad it’s hard but back then women believe u stick it out with your husband no matter what! I have an Asian family its hard because growing up you would think your parents would acknowledge you, give you hugs, say I love you. But some patents dnt and that’s sad sometimes it dsnt even have to do with being Asian sometimes it has to do with how you was treated when you was younger. Hey everyone suffers but i think as long as you know the difference you can move on & accept the things you cannot change. But, later you can break the cycle when you have your own kids. Just a thought!!!!
Well Asian people had a history of murdering baby girls so apple doesn’t fall too far from. There are good ones and there are bad ones just like in all races. They will never be affectionate but they maybe abusive.
Let me preface this by saying that ANY man in ANY culture that aggressively and physically strikes a woman deserves to be punished and have his freedom taken away from him. It is WRONG for a man to hit a woman. Period. The only exception would be that the woman is actually trying to kill the man, say by stabbing him with a butcher knife, and he has to hit her in self defense and incapacitate her so that he can get away. Now, that having been said…it seems that perhaps, due to differences in culture and history, the criteria and standard for what is considered abuse are quite different between Asian and Western societies. There apparently is a much lower threshold for “abuse” in Western culture…but that might not be such a good thing after all…there is such an alarmist attitude in Western society, people here are afraid of and offended by almost everything. A white husband here might make the poor decision of calling his wife “stupid” during an argument and the next morning the wife is filing for divorce claiming “mental abuse”. If the same thing happened in an Asian household, the wife might just roll her eyes, shrug it off and go into another room…thereby diffusing the situation. The next morning, everything is fine, back to normal…but the husband can forget getting any evening “action” for the next week, at least. The wife has the last word. Who’s stupid now? LOL
I think we all need to re-evaluate what is considered abuse and “pick our battles”, so to speak. Life, family and time are precious.
I think it might be valid for me to mention that I am a middle aged, gay, white male from Texas.
Hey, this is for the comment that women over 35+ are only with AM because we can’t get any other man. I am a 35 year old woman and I am by far from old,used,or washed out! I am fit slim and have always taken care of myself. I find some AM very attractive and the reason I have not dated any is there are not many AM where I live. Women at this age are in our sexual peek so I think the AM who are dating these women are not complaining, and would NEVER send back the cat for a kitten!lol
More proof that Asians are sticking together and marrying each other.
[quote]M says:
December 30, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Well Asian people had a history of murdering baby girls so apple doesn’t fall too far from. There are good ones and there are bad ones just like in all races. They will never be affectionate but they maybe abusive.[/quote]
Really? The whole Asian race or just one or two countries in Asia? Stupidity never ends.